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Doubling down and playing the worse player makes them look way more foolish though. Do they not know that? I can understand making a bad draft pick, but to start that player over a better player is maddening.

The fact that a first round "franchise pick", is actually this inept, is a huge swing and a miss. Time to cut bait and move on. Three years is enough.

Oh my God, if they wanted to trade Lamar, give them what they want. but, my guess is it is highly likely they fire Harbaugh and keep Lamar.

I never understood the Pete hiring.

I am with you on the bad trade wagon. I have a red line and it starts with future 1sts. You don’t do it for any reason. In my book. But once it was done, it had to be Stroud. They are nuts.

Honestly I didnt/wouldn't notice if he was benched/hurt or if he just continued his trajectory of suck

Agreed but you are taking away the TE from the pushing because the QB is just stepping aside doing nothing, the tush push wouldn't have one player step back and just watch it happen.

I am not arguing that Shough has not shown more promise than Bryce has - I’m just saying that I don’t see enough evidence yet to think he’s “the one that got away” (like a CJ Stroud or a Jayden Daniels/Drake Maye). Those are two entirely separate conversations.

Ravens fans are saying it's either going to be John Harbaugh fired or Lamar Jackson traded what yall think?? Either one come available , fire Canalas or get rid of Bryce

Yeah but to me you can either push them back or you can't. It's not a trick play

I never liked that trade because you dont give up that amount for any unproven player QB or not. And the more it was being announced Bryce was going to be the pick, the more film of his I watched and was trying to figure out what was the "must have" in his game that we needed to give up so much. I'm not the quintessential Bryce hater I guess but that was stupid trade if he was the prospect you were targeting.

It caught the Hawks off guard because we've never done it before, it won't catch the Bucs off guard because it is now on tape is my point.

Trevon Diggs also got released. Hopes to sign with a playoff team. And I’ve read the raiders are going to fire Pete Carroll but who knows

It's not about selling anything it's about getting the first down

Interesting. I never watch college ball. I might catch the title game but might not, it isn’t appointment TV for me. I watch a couple of SCar games a year plus normally the USC/Clemson. That is it. I don’t scout prospects for the draft anymore, for at least ten years now. When we pick someone, then I look them up. When we made the choice of Bryce or CJ a reality I knew I had to pretend I was a scout again… No joke, 10 minutes or less of watching Bryce video, I was 100% out. I could not understand what people were looking at with Young. I decided a lot of why people liked him so much was they had watched him a lot in college. And developed a pro Bryce bias off of that. And since I hadn’t seen him at all, I had no biases. So kind of the opposite rationale.

Should go on the commissioners exempt list, oh wait they only use that for us.

Well usually the QB isnt the size of a 8th grader.

Don't worry he will still play in the playoffs

Hey at his 6.2 yards per attempt it only takes him 16 completions to get to 100.

I would be totally happy with that trade up if the pick was Stroud and he was on our team even though I like Malik and Ward and some of these other guys fyi. Crazy the Texans got to double down with Stroud and a top pass rusher after we blew it lol.

So we have two shots to beat the bucs? Just beat them on the first try.

The Teppers

There was a popular narrative here especially last year about Bryce being good when it didn’t count; a lot of people pushed back, of course.

QBs drafted in the top 2 rounds after 2023 Williams Maye Daniels Dart Shough IMO, all have put shown to have a higher ceiling than Bryce in the NFL and done so in a shorter window than he has had. So basically, we only would have screwed up drafting Penix or JJ and kept all of our assets. The trade up and cost of Bryce should rightfully go down as the worst move in franchise history.