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Why are most NFL refs senior citizens lol

I can't speak to the sample size on the double ACL tears, I could look into it but I am unsure about the quality of data I am able to find. Anecdotally, I don't think that is common for sure. Well one giant red flag for Dobbins is that of the 3-5 serious injuries he has had in his NFL career, 100% of them have been the same leg. That's not good and it doesn't bode well for his longevity at all. As I have said several hundred times in this forum(in this case it will be in regards to Thomas Davis), outliers are memorable for a reason....because they are outliers. You don't base your decision making on outliers. That's.....stupid. I am also not high on Etienne but he does play special teams and Brooks does not. Currently, I couldn't blame anyone in the FO for choosing a 3rd string RB that can play special teams and has actually played more than 23 career snaps in the NFL in 2+ seasons. I am not advocating for cutting Brooks but I don't think it's a player I would consider for anything other than a 3rd string role(and likely competing for it, at that) if I am building a roster for 2026. It's not like they are going to get to see him at 100% in 2026.

I'm not going to argue against black helmets, but love our silver helmets. No one has anything similar. If you took all the logos off all 32 team's helmets, you could pick out our helmet easy.

You guys have a bright future I believe

Been a Packers fan for 29 years.

That's why it's only 45% and not higher.

This is my opinion on wrasslin

It's rare enough for a running back to tear the same ACL twice. There's not much of a sample size on the recoveries. And of course Dobbins has missed a lot of time--he was injured twice. That number will drop as his career continues, and even if it doesn't, that doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with the prior injuries. Dobbins just started and played well for a playoff team all year until he was injured by a hip-drop tackle. Surely his ACL recoveries didn't contribute to his completely random foot injury caused by an illegal tackle? Again, I'm confused why everyone is being so definitive that there's 'very little chance' of any meaningful contribution ever when the greatest counterpoint ever played for us. Thomas Davis tore the same knee over and over again and was basically fine. As for the roster-building stuff, we'll see what happens with Chuba and Dowdle at the end of the year, but Etienne's not going to factor into this. Either Brooks comes back, in which case we've already seen more from him than we have from Etienne, or he doesn't. But Etienne's not forcing him off the team. If anything, Etienne's current role is his absolute floor.

Then I would assume disingenuous. Why on earth would you consider this an "exciting" time to be a Panthers fan? Let me ask this, how old are you and how long have you been an NFL fan?

An ESPN writer had a good breakdown of teams that were likely to come back to earth(KC and Redskins were two of them) based on outlier results in 2024 in close games. I think that has a lot to do with it. Found it: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46003861/nfl-teams-likely-decline-lose-more-games-2025-season-predictions-vikings-chiefs-commanders-lions-colts

I hope KC doesn’t make it!

I’m not being condescending I promise. When you’re not playing us I like seeing you all do great.

And now we await the inevitable nitpicking on one of two names...

People really fell for this bait of a thread.

I'm not convinced they even make it into the playoffs at this point. Been a strange season this time around.

I am not sure if you are being disingenuous or condescending here.

Right now it is buddy! A couple guys are telling me to leave the board due to me being an opposing fan. I’m rooting you guys on plus we don’t have much of a rivalry at all.

You'd be one of the few. My excitement is basically completely gone. I just watch because I have been watching for 30 years. It's just habit. Maybe there will be a day that this franchise elicits excitement again. It would be nice.

Allen going prime Jeff Lewis. Wow. That was fuging retarded.

They are missed opportunities in that both were games that had a good chance for victory. Jacksonville does have a good chance at a playoff spot and would be in if the season ended today. Enough fans were buying into the nonsense of making the Superbowl because we began with Jacksonville.

Mav my man how you doing?

Excited to watch you guys in prime time this week. Go Panthers!

My wife never will understand why I follow sports. It's because I can have this exact conversation with 3 random dudes in an elevator.

Yeah, I am just not a guy that likes wrasslin' or reality TV elements in everything. I am fine with disagreements or passionate debates but I don't want manufactured nonsense. I would rather they be a bit boring than that poo. You can probably get Sherman to be mean. Just allow him to drink on set.

Ive only ever heard Cowturd say one intelligent thing in regards to football. Find your QB. Protect him Get him weapons. In that order. Everything else is pretty much bullshit.