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Just let him be him. I think folks have forgotten how utterly dominant Cam was. Auburn was unranked at the beginning of the season. They had minimal NFL talent on that roster. Cam still won a Heisman and carried them to an SEC championship and national championship. Sellers isn't that. Not at this stage. Cam had what has to be considered one of the greatest college seasons ever.

He got a ways to go to catch Cam the collegiate passer. Gonna be hard to develop a lot this year you would think given the SC OL so to an extent, he seems to potentially be like some other Gamecocks that have entered the draft recently. Physical tools make you really want the guy…..no one really close that could come out have near the tools

Has to show a lot more to be a top pick. I like him but nothing special so far

He should be under consideration absolutely. But there's a whole lot of time between now and the draft and there will be QB's who rise and fall.

Well they can play that game all they like. The fact is they didn’t make a single half of an attempt to bring in a halfway competent backup. They made the bed. Now it’s time to sleep in it. They made this Bryce or bust and now it’s bust.

Dave would have the excuse/logic that he hasn’t been able to bring a QB that fits his O. That was the prior HCs QB and it got that HC fired with quickness. Can’t expect Dave to win this year without a QB if he went 5-12. Morgan tied Bryce to him by not dealing him. Be horrible this year and Dave isn’t getting more time most likely

That's a serious word salad. Anywho. Both Justin Fields and Daniel Jones have always had something Bryce Young does not possess. The necessary physical tools.

What it feels like is a horrible source reality. What a person sees is a horrible source for reality. Stats can be easily misunderstood because because they are interpretive and contextual. Very large data sets with dozens more more connected variables are difficult to deal with and understand correctly. Throw in confirmation bias, abstraction, emotions and the way human brains are wired make it really easy to roll with eye tests and intuition. The negativity for Bryce was really high and most were ready to trade that asset for peanuts until the second half of last year when he began to play much, much better. Hope sprang eternal. The Saints game last year. Going toe to toe and almost beating the two teams who went to the Superbowl last year. Beating the Falcons when the Falcons had everything to play for. Haters started adjusting their tune. Fan and media starting saying it looks like Carolina has found their franchise QB. The real answer was and is, maybe. If he plays great on Sunday the anti-Bryce crowd will find other excuses or say it's only one game. If he plays horrible, it'll be more of the "I told you so. I knew it before he was drafted." (which is beyond stupid since there there is not an actual way to know if a player will be successful in the NFL or not.) I'll leave with a simple example. Of the initial list of incompletions due to WR error, Jarod Goff has 0. He was 31 for 39 at an almost 80% completion percentage. His WR's much has balled out. Except when you add the facts that only 11 of those passes were to WRs. 14 were to RB's and 6 to the TE. Gibbs has 10 of those receptions and he's elite so that explains why we shouldn't put much stock into this stat. But then we see that Gibbs also set an NFL record with the least number of yards (31) for any player with at least 10 receptions in a game. Fun stuff! Oh yeah. From week 1 how many people had Justin Fields and Daniel Jones playing at elite levels?

How do you reconcile with the fact that the most competent and productive the Panthers passing offense has looked at any point between 2023 and 2025 were both games where Andy Dalton (who is completely washed and terrible) started? 680 passing yards and 5 touchdowns in two games. And one of those games was with Frank Reich as the head coach. This team needs competent QB play.

If we're in position and he is there, he will absolutely be the pick. He goes to South Carolina after all

Does Miami still want Bryce? lol

No I mean a professional QB doesn’t need a wide receiver to tell him where the safety is and what coverage they’re in.

What are your thoughts on Sellers? Big frame and big arm at 6'3 and 245 lbs. Shades of Cam Newton. Complete opposite of Young. Could be the answer to what they need. He needs some refinment, but the intangibles are sky high. Looks like a smart guy and not a problem child. He will be a high QB prospect no doubt.

Not resign Dalton, sign a healthy jag, sit Young all year and the trade him i 26. Easy and stated for moths here

So you mean a QB needs a professional WR? You think?

No one would be complain if Bryce and the O were productive and threatening…..and we lost with bad defense. Thats literally what we setup with our investments to be at this point in time.

the #1 Heisman winning draft pick came off the bench looking better, I see why he wasn't traded. If he was and this year the Panthers still went 5-12 it would look bad. Really no winning play for Dave

The Panthers have. Frank.

best case scenario for fans is you just play Bryce 17 straight games and you get the clean break from him. . the problem becomes, all the people at BOA that will start trying to position themselves to save face/jobs (survival is the NFL game). And never benching a bad player, well, that creates an inhouse nightmare. Which generally means you make a run through all your QBs at some point when things go bad. Dan fugged this all up. They moved on from Bryce last year and failed to trade/get rid of him. That was the proper play.

I agree we don't need a top pick. But at this point wherever we end up in round 1 we're just going to have to throw another dart at it. I concur wholeheartedly about our evaluation. If it were up to me every single draft scout would have already gotten their walking papers. But I think we both know who is actually pulling strings so I guess it probably doesn't matter? But all we have to do is just take a chance on a QB that actually has the physical intangibles necessary as a starting point. It's always going to be a crapshoot but that's the bare minimum we need to be looking at going forward. This trying to break the mold and draft the NFL QB equivalent of Steph Curry foolishness needs to get out of the damn building now and forever.

Or pick it if it's there. I agree but I still expect them to do it the right way even knowing they won't. It's why thr huddle is usually right more than the team...

Do your thing Ice. l've realized that some huddlers are just gonna complain. That's their schtick. I didn't watch the game live (getting too old to let football monopolize my Sundays), so I'll take a look too.

I'm going to agree with the original premise of the thread, at least to some degree. Our defense was historically bad last season. And, from the looks of the first week, it's no better and possibly worse. We just allowed Jacksonville to get 200 yards on the ground on us. Rushing yards... frikking rushing yards. Even with a good QB, it would be hard to give up that much, not to mention 32 points a game, and come out with even close to a winning record. Bryce is struggling, failing, but he's not the only problem. We haven't had a decent defense since Tepper pretty much dictated that we move to a 3-4. It hasn't worked and Eviro can't seem to coach on top of that.

Pretty much all you can do at this point is play Bryce. If he dies, he dies. There’s no other option on the roster and it is what it is. Dalton stinks and anyone we pull up from PS will likely be terrible.

Forfeit the season and give us all some relief.