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Almost every sideline vertical ball he throws turns into some whack jump ball fade. He never really gives anyone a chance to go get it….even when they have their guy beat. And we have seen them have a step. Everything is a jump ball basically taking them out of bounds or the back or the endzone.

Our GM, just like last year, has made not going with Bryce a nearly impossible feat. only option is a washed Dalton with a hurt throwing hand thumb

Weird. I was talking to an individual who used to or (maybe still does) have some connections around there for a lunch today. Of course the Panthers come up he brings up people not being focused and calling people out by name. 8 hours later, I’m scrolling on social media and seeing the same names on different platforms regarding players fuging off. Either truth to it or everyone from all different spectrums just hate them lol.

I noticed him for sure. I favor grabbing someone’s backup, that hasn’t gotten their shot yet. Over a draft pick. Now, both would really be ideal, import a ready to play backup and a drafted guy to school.

Yeah, you got multiple Panthers now saying it.

For me it is a selfish wish. I’m tired of my eyes bleeding while watching Bryce try to play QB.

Leadership council… most coaches have vets in the locker room that are conduits and keep them informed of the vibe or problems, and also take whatever message the other way back to the team. The making it an official thing with a title is not really my favorite idea.

I can understand the concept of this under the Rivera era where we had very strong locker room culture and respected veterans. Who in the fug could that possibly even be here? A couple of the OL? Jansen? These guys are a mishmosh of "never have had any success" or random veterans. Not saying it isn't possible but there being a lot of "strong leaders" in this group in terms od understanding NFL success is far fetched.

idk if there’s anything to it or what but I keep seeing/hearing the same players referenced.

Seeing Princely on this list reminded me of him getting mad coming off the field. Anyone know what that was about

If he can't or won't bench Bryce then I have no use for him. He's just a yes man.

That’s my point. If they finish 7-10 they will be back next year. Bryce won’t

Yes that leadership council thing is total nonsense. The coaches make the damn decisions. Period. It’s ok to get input from veteran players in a private setting but this kumbayyah nonsense is for the birds.

It is heretical language to some. We casual types can say it, we are just dumb. When Cosell says it they probably go looking for their pacifiers and blankies. Second consecutive week he dished that out. I wonder what it will be on the review this week.

I love how everyone is acting so surprised by this, it's actually pretty comical that it's a shock to anyone. This is how it is in ALL sports. It's the same reason we were in tight games last year against teams like KC and Philly. I'll bet the same people surprised by this right now are the same ones who thought those games were the proof that Bryce was legit and this team wasn't far from being in contention. Teams have down weeks, whether it happens because they're playing a weak opponent so don't think they need to take the week as serious or because a team just got too big headed after a good streak of games/wins, it just happens. There have been very few teams who have ever been 100% locked in every week, you're talking about 2007 Patriots or 95-96 Bulls type of teams there. Hell, just look at the Bills this week, there was no reason for them to lose that game and they got blown out. But sure, we're the franchise with the culture problems because a few guys got their head over their skis this past week.

TBH, we won't know unless they say or some people get benched. It's pointless to even speculate. The greater point is that the coaching staff is allowing it to happen. So much for a "Leadership Council."

I am betting someone on the OL given they got a lot of press for holding Parsons to no pressures for the first time in his career. Maybe not. But that would give you a big head. Also wonder if it was Rico… Can’t do anything but guess and it is a bad accusation if you don’t know. Scourton saying it, tells me it was on both sides of the ball.

Jeff Lewis was the worst QB to ever wear the Panthers uniform. I have never seen anything like it.

Bryce and XL and potentially Rico would be likely candidates.

I think Dillon Gabriel may have the worst arm I have ever seen.

I think it was a lot more than one person.

He’d be an upgrade for sure ( so would just about anyone else) but I doubt Houston lets him walk. They seem to have reservations about Stroud and want a solid backup. Unlike our approach because we don’t want to hurt the lil guy’s feelings.

To be fair, the vast majority of that came on him following over twice. Hopefully that doesn't happen again But when even advanced stats can't save Bryce... Well ...

Hasn't been a ton but it was in back to back games. I hope he isn't one of the guys Ikey and Scourton have been talking about as far as resting on their laurels. Hopefully just a bad couple of games.

We watched every sunday for almost 3 years...not really an epiphany....