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I see this as Renfrow for 3-4 years potentially. Coker I wanna keep though as the #3 X

This is the way

You are barking up the wrong tree.

I'd rather ship a late pick if they were willing

What does the second worst defense got to do with anything? They are not the second worst because of one player. You should be trying to look at his play in a vacuum the best you can, not essentially saying that every player on a bad defense is bad. The fact is, Lloyd has improved, leading the Jags in tackles and defensive stops last year. Moreover, the Jags have obviously been having issues, and one way that they plan to fix it is switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3. They may not feel that he's the best fit for their system.

Looked like they were practicing 2nd and 3rd and long most of the day.

Quit with your logic, sir!! We'll have none of that in here!!

What ever gets your rocks off.

I get what you're saying, but "disappointment" or not, he's been solid the last two years. He is great depth at worst, but is really a starter.

I try to convince whatever clerk it happens to be at the time to sell me a winning PowerBall/Mega Millions ticket, but even if they agree to, it hasn't happened yet and I somehow doubt it ever will. Apparently they don't have any influence, so I just gave up and saved my breath.

Hello no. Coker is a wildcard player right now. He could very well be our best WR. We just don’t know it yet.

I agree with everyone else but just wanted to thank you as I now know there is a thing called a charizard and with the help of google, know what it is.

Works for me. Best I can do is a 5th round pick.

We don't know. You're the one acting like a LB that the second worst defense in the league is ready to move on from is ready to pick up carry the torch of Mills, Morgan, Beason, Luke, TD, etc. All the while acting like the folks saying "nah" are the crazy ones.

Cokeheads-Who are the 4 active WRs on GameDay? List each one and reasons. FYI you better factor in STs.

Coker is under contract for only one year, then its EPFA(??). Im going to ask everyone in this thread, who are the 4 active WRs come game day? \What are cokers stats looking like for the upcoming year? It does feel like Im talking to coke-heads taking line after line then telling me they can not part with one of their overrated charizards cards.....

A 1 year rental shouldn't cost an up and coming player. I understand you feel differently.

Yeah, logic says that if you're looking for castoffs or guys willing to be traded fairly cheaply, you're probably most likely to find those guys on a good roster, not the worst defense in the league that wasn't in Charlotte last year.

It is also fair to point out that the Panthers have taken a swing on two players discarded from the Jaguars in recent years and both were misses. Maybe we should just stop trying to find diamonds in the worst places and leave that in the Fitterer years.

This is a great torch carrier for the Panthers LB story.

How do they know that?? Reminder this is the jaguars org. Lloyd is a better fit for that panthers and Coker better for the Jags. Jags have a surplus of LBs and Panthers have surplus of WRs. Each team improves while not losing.

I think it's fair, I just think Coker potentially helps to answer our most pressing questions more than Lloyd does and I'm just not trying to make knee jerk decisions to try to bandaid a roster together. There will be LBs that hit the waiver wire that can fill the gap. Literally and figuratively. A big part of what made our LBs look so horrific last year was the DL in front of them and it should be greatly improved this year.

That's fair. I feel their is a slim chance at playoffs. And I always do both with future and now, its a difficult measure there. Lloyd is just as young, the big difference is Coker has one extra year of contract controll. But Lloyd was drafted in the late 1st and Coker wasn't drafted, again that's a balance taking place. Just spitting an idea that in my mind is fair to each side, after Panthers main trade chip got hurt yesterday. But Ive been thinking about the deep WR, I know those two UDFAs Hudson and George got some skills too. With the odds against Coker after he posted that good season, great if you say include UDFA....This is his peak value, unless he's a HOFer or injuries hit hard, he's not going to move the sticks much this season. Cokerheads must open their eyes and close the nostrils.

True but in the last decade….only QBs (7) and WRs (2) have won the award. One DB. It’s a passing league and a story driven league

*taps the sign for the haters*