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Wow he just came right out and said it. I give him credit for his honesty I guess. And this was supposed to be Bryce Young's comparative ceiling.

Agreed. I actually asked Chat GTP why are centers so important to the O-line. You'll find their response interesting. The center is absolutely critical to the offensive line, even though he rarely gets the spotlight. Here’s why: 1. He’s the “quarterback” of the offensive line The center identifies the defensive front before the snap — calling out who the “Mike” linebacker is and setting protection assignments for the guards and tackles. He adjusts the blocking scheme based on shifts, stunts, and blitz looks. In most offenses, the QB and center share communication responsibilities, but the center’s call is often what the rest of the line follows. Without a smart, communicative center, the whole line can fall apart under pressure or disguise. 2. He’s central to blocking coordination The center is literally the pivot point — coordinating combo blocks, zone steps, and double-teams with both guards. In zone-blocking schemes, he’s essential for lateral movement, reading the defensive tackle’s leverage, and passing off blocks smoothly. A poor center can destroy run-game timing or allow penetration that blows up plays before they start. 3. He handles some of the toughest matchups Centers face nose tackles — often the biggest, strongest player on the defense — directly over the ball. He has to snap accurately, then instantly anchor against 300+ lbs of power, often with one hand still finishing the snap motion. That’s one of the most technically demanding jobs in football. 4. He ties the line together mentally and physically The center’s ability to recognize stunts, delayed blitzes, and coverage disguises helps the entire line stay in sync. If a guard or tackle makes a mistake, the center can often help bail them out through quick adjustment calls or recovery blocks. A great center also brings leadership and stability — think of guys like Jason Kelce, Travis Frederick, or Alex Mack — they elevated everyone around them. 5. Why some teams don’t draft centers early Despite the importance, centers rarely go in Round 1 because their positional value (impact on points/wins per dollar or cap hit) is lower than QB, LT, Edge, or CB. But analytically, a great center can add similar efficiency gains to a good left tackle by reducing QB pressure and improving run-game consistency. In short: The center is the brains and anchor of the offensive line — the glue that makes five individuals operate as one. He might not be the highest-paid, but when you have a great one, your offense usually runs smoother in every phase. ------- I'd NEVER complain if we took an elite prospect in the 1st or 2nd round.

This is true. Except when it isn’t. I mean he is not consistent. He does a lot of the same stuff he was soing in 2023. Hate to say it but I see it. That is what I mean by internalized. It is not ingrained in him and he randomly goes back to his bad stuff - gets rattled or something. Over something. I don’t t know what triggers it but it all juat flies away and you have the plqykng scared afraid to get hit Bryce. Bails early. The failure footwork comes back, the whole deal. That is why we have to hope he plays all the games so we can document where he really is at.

easier question: With the numbers I just listed, in his 3rd year, what is there to support? What do you see that we arent seeing?

fug the round you take the best player available. The Lions were laughed at for the Gibbs and Laporta draft now look at them. What you don't do is bet on raw athletic freaks over polished football players that may have shorter arms or are undersized

JJ has looked fuging terrible in an absolutely great offensive situation.

Yeah, I'm sure this is exactly what the Panthers pictured when they traded a king's ransom to trade up to draft him #1. A third year starting QB that forces you to run a third string QB offense because of his limitations.

Chargers vs Vikings? eh.. Apparently Wentz stole JJ's job lol.

Are we not in year 8 of Tepper with only misery to show for it? It is hard to criticize people for impatience. But we are going to have to find some more patience.

Keep drafting LB in 3rd+ and keep watching TEs and RBs dominating us

Sherrod Martin was a 2nd round safety too

I mean....I think we are getting ahead of ourselves a bit there but Inhave been very pleased with the early returns. Cautiously optimistic.

you know he has an AOL account as well

One guy keeping it alive

Yep. Added that after more thought

It would be nice if he got a couple I N Teehee

How is it subjective, he literally ranks 25th in completion % 24 in yards. 11th in attempts and 30 something in ypa. His qb rating is godawful as well. Like the OP asked what the fug does he excel at? By every metric he fuging sucks all while having the 3rd best rushing attack, a top tier line and wide wr options And your comment about making others better around him is lol funny

And who isn't better with a great running game. And who said he can carry a team on his back? You try way too hard to crap on him and any poster who supports him. Hardly something a moderator should do in the first place. Are you trying to drive the board into constant negative territory all by.yourself. as Fiery Prophet said recently if your goal is to drive everyone away you are doing a great job

It's abundantly clear there are quite a few people out here who have simply dropped the bar on the floor. We're a long ways from the very lofty to put it mildly predraft comparisons. Now it's basically just akin to an overbearing little league parent acting completely bonkers when their kid does anything that could be construed as positive.

Now that I think about it, didnt we draft Chinn in the 2nd round, or was it the third?

I dont disagree with any of your post, however timing is against us in your scenario. The FA qb list this off season is LOL funny and I wouldnt take a shot on any of those dudes and secondly I the time has run out for us to make a decision on bryce. He is either gone next year or we pick up the 5th and he is here 2 more years. I feel in my heart of hearts the qb room looks exactly the same come 2026. But yeah if we have a top 10ish pick it would be sweet as hell to be able to grab an elite safety or lb instead of going the qb route again. But status quo I just dont know how you dont upgrade the qb room somehow. I guess it all starts sunday

Deon Grant was 2nd round I believe. Chinn was 2nd as well. Technically TD was a 1st round safety. Seems theres typically a good to great center in the second round. I dont understand why they dont get valued higher. They are the keystone. I feel like thoe ranges are too wide to be interesting

Best rounds to draft C, IOL, Safety, and LB is 5-7. Toss NB in there too, but I feel that's more of a 3-5 deal.

Again who said he was great or elite. And that ranking is totally subjective .

Thanks for bringing out the truth!