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When he's out of the league the narrative will be that the Panthers failed him

It’s obvious the coaching staff have no faith in Bryce. Whenever they try downfield he either overthrows or underthrows wide open (or catchable) WRs. Only thing he can do consistently is dink and dunk balls down the field for 5-7 yard gains. You cannot sustain that and expect to be a playoff team. I seriously think the team is just handicapped by the limitations of Bryce. We cannot open the playbook because he can’t handle it.

No, we leave Bryce out there to look like crap the rest of the year to secure a top 5 pick. In fact, I would literally just start practice squad offensive linemen so he can take a beating the rest of the year for being a terrible fuging QB

Hooker needs another shot. Bryce has had several shots and is still shooting blanks.

This right here. I don't care how bad Bryce is - when the team is unprepared every week, taking multiple delay of games because they don't know the playcall, not knowing how to run a 2 minute offense, and calling HB dive plays on 3rd and long, you should fire that coach. Now go watch what Liam Coen has done with the Jags and you can see a light and day difference between a good rookie-ish coach and a bad rookie-ish coach

Seems like adding more fuel to a dumpster fire. I would rather see someone else personally. The Panthers can't handle PR well currently and that's a bad mix with Sanders. Then again let it burn I guess.

So bench him for someone who can.

When Bryce scored three TD's against the Cardinals, all you haters would say is it was because the Cardinals let up. It was garbage time. Yet when Dalton comes in, it isn't. Not sure thats a fair comparison. Secondly, I was simply responding to your statement that the offense wasn't doing enough to keep the Defense off the field. I just pointed out you were wrong.

The solution is easy. Trade Pittsburgh 2 firsts for Tomlin

Obviously but that has nothing to do with my response.

At least we could laugh at whoever took them

I turned those guys off for good early last year after feeling really irritated with them pretty much since they have been riding Bryce’ jock and being overly shitty to texters and callers who disagreed with them. Have nothing good to say about them especially Mac.

Except score. Those stats also includes Dalton's drive where he went straight down the field and scored. Oddly enough, with the same banged up OL and same thin WR corps that people are using as an excuse for Bryce's struggles. Dalton got 39% of Young's passing yards in one drive.

I can only recall one that I would deem a throw away. The air mailed one to Renfrow to the sideline. But it's hard to say because Bryce can't throw his direction at all. But I'd still give him that one as a throwaway. That's it.

The Backshot Crew would be appropriate

The only place to hurt him is his wallet, but unfortunately, with this being such a transplant city, I'm not sure we are capable of doing that. I think we are stuck with him. Tickets will always sell, and the NFL operates on a shared revenue model anyway. So even boycotting merch is not going to impact him at all. People would have to stop going to concerts and soccer for it to matter at all. And the soccer team is actually good. All that said, his net worth is so high, there is literally nothing we could do that would impact him financially. It would have to be ego/reputation based. Like wearing bags on our heads. Not sure he would even care about that though. If we could get enough panther fans in the stadium and get organized in embarrassing the guy, that would be the most impactful, but I just don't see that happening when the visiting team gets at least 40% of our tickets on any given sunday. And the owner has far more money than the 80K people in the stadium, even if you include the players. He is one of the wealthiest people on earth. were not hurting him really. We are basically stuck hoping that he becomes self aware. Someone above estimated that his net worth was 25% Panthers. I'm not sure that's close. I think the Panthers are something around 10% of his net worth. Edit: I don't mean to turn this conversation into something it's not, but the chances that he sells the team are so low, I actually think it would take some sort of political overthrow, or change in the structure of our entire economy and government for him to get rid of this thing willingly. And I'm not sure I'd call that willingly. Only way forward is to try to change the guy, either by showing how much the org means to people in this region, or by shame.

Shadeur is a lightning rod that was unable to secure a backup role at Cleveland. Why should we roll the dice on him vs someone like Hooker who's already on the roster? Who cares about media rep?

At this point I wouldn’t even be mad if the Panthers pulled a Baltimore colts and left in the middle of the night.

The offense is supposed to score points. If all you do is take up clock while the other team scores.....then you are just playing into a bend but don't defensive effort by your opponent. And you get smashed. Like we did.

Thr talent levels include GMs and HCs. One college salesman, a retired HC collecting free money and an OC that needed a lot more time to build up his skills. A GM who was well liked but did squat that was meaningful with his previous team and a GM that was the last guys right hand while also being likeable but also underqualified. It's systematic with Tepper.

We should change our slogan from Keep Pounding to Get Pounded. Geeeeeet… Poooundeeddd. Geeeeet… Poooundeed….

The Panthers had 320 yards to the Pats 307, they had 21 first downs compared to 16 for the Pats and they held the ball for 35 minutes compared to 24 for the Patriots. The offense did more than their part in keeping the Pats offense off the field.

You would think but we're not even being creative about it. Chuba's actually doing well considering.

Exactly, I have no idea why Dan Morgan isnt getting so much hate right now. We have so little talent on the team. He was the right hand man for the worst gm we have ever had previously. Our top position group is an almost average offensive line (highest paid in the NFL.) We also have the second highest paid defensive line in the NFL, so even just throwing a lot of money out to overpay players isnt working. We haven't had a really good draft in years and years. A lot of people have hope for this one, but that happens every year for a while. Every year some people try to talk about how many rookies are playing as a way to defend his drafts. How many of thse rookies are playing above an average player level or making a real impact? They are playing because we have no talent. If they got drafted by a decent team then most of these rookies would not be playing over the years. Dan Morgan should be at the top of the list for needing to be replaced but you dont hear his name mentioned hardly at all.