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#11. does XL feel disrespected by the roster moves and take the next step?

I don’t see someone like Tepp allowing that canary to sing at the conclusion of his contract. a non-disclosure may be in the mix.

This is a great example of how defense coming!! https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/panthers-call-quick-end-practice-161205896.html That flexibility and power showed at the collegiate level, where Umanmielen recorded 25.5 sacks and four forced fumbles over five years. The 2024 campaign saw him notch 10.5 sacks for Ole Miss en route to a first-team All-SEC selection. Carolina Panthers rookie Princely Umanmielen made a strong first impression in the opening outing of training camp on Wednesday. In fact, it may have been a little too strong

thanks for posting here so I don't even have to give the Athletic a view.

Knew I knew the name was our coach when we drafted BY and he didn't last long but befor he was QB!! The Panthers had drafted Kerry Collins as their intended franchise quarterback, but Reich was the starter for the first three games until Collins was deemed ready to take the starting job. Reich was sacked nine times on September 3 at Atlanta, a franchise record he shares with Cam Newton.[citation needed] Glad he excited because I sure am myself. Some talking heads us winning Div. but first training camp!!

ESPN 8 the OCHO was funny when it wasn't really on the horizon.

They have been working on this for a while, if they didn’t sell NFL or sell of pieces they were just going to slowly shut it down

I more often end up just rewatching games after the fact or using other "alternatives" for live games. I mean I couldn't even watch a fuging summer league game without a subscription. This sh*t is beyond out of hand.

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Dave with a better GM would have had a much better chance but when paird with Morgan in our situations it's hard for me to get behind. Too much I just still think won't work. Some good more bad or meh IMO. I think Tepper actually likes Dan. I think DC needed more time, same with the guy the Jags got. Tepper hires poorly. People he likes regardless and poor overall meshing. Rhule with Bryce who isn't his type as you have stated in the past. Keeping Morgan and just hiring his friend with zero interest elsewhere for legitimate reasons. Whatever, it's what the Panthers are now and until the wins come Im not able to force my self to play pretend anymore.

I wish ESPN would just die already

Gross

I hadn't heard the Hubbard stuff. Hope that's not the case. I was trying to show you some optimism lol

Agreed re: injuries. I think that there's been enough done to where the team has starting talent at almost every position group (except LB now), but some of those groups are incredibly top-heavy without much depth (ie: DB + LB imo). I think that the roster has been built out enough to where losing a guy in the trenches isn't going to be as devastating as it has been recently... but maaaan if Jaycee gets hurt right after signing his new deal that's going to suck even worse than it has before. I've heard rumours that Hubbard might have patella-related issues (didn't he have a subluxation last season towards the end?), and if that's true I don't doubt we're going to get a much healthier dose of Dowdle than we did Miles Sanders during his tenure. As much as I want to see the pass game take off, it's got a lot of young and unproven commodities that it's depending on to work. I'm expecting growing pains, but with actual growth rather than just the pain.

Heading into the '26 draft, I would've said LB was our R1 pick and that does not look like it will change for me. I also think a LB will shake free from a team between now and week 1 that is in the Mike Jackson cornerback tier of player. Whether its a trade or cut, I think Dan will bring in some competition. I'm not a huge fan of the FA crop that's left, so we shall see. Rozeboom is not that far off of Josey, IMO and I feel that the coaching staff sees that too. Wishing the best for Jewell to get better and live life.

Link to article Top 10 storylines according to Joe Person: 10. Who will emerge as the returners? Raheem Blackshear, Trevor Etienne, and Jimmy Horn Jr all competing put Blackshear's roster spot in jeopardy. 9. Will Dan Morgan look outside for secondary help? Some vets are still out there (ie: Justin Simmons), but Person thinks the like the makeup of the current secondary group and as a result they might not bring in reinforcements. An injury or bad showing could change that. 8. What's the situation at tight end? This was posted before Mabry was signed, but Person did mention Noah Fant as a possibility. Sanders' 33 receptions as a rookie last year were the most by a Panthers tight end since Greg Olsen's 52 catches in his final season with the Panthers. Sanders was on pace for a 44-catch rookie season before flipping onto his head vs. KC. He has since lost 10 pounds since last season and looked faster in OTAs. 7. Will an Ikem Ekwonu extension get done before the season? Person thinks that a logical starting point for negotiations would be AAV of $21M which would put Icky in the top-7, highest-paid players at his position. 6. Who wins the kicking competition? Rookie Ryan Fitzgerald appears to have an edge over Matthew Wright, who kicked in one game for the Panthers in 2023. Fitzgerald has a much stronger leg than Pineiro, nailing a 59-yard FG vs. GT for the second-longest kick in FSU history. 5. Will there be enough pass rush? Panthers were tied for third fewest sacks in the league last season with 32. A'Shawn Robinson and Jadeveon Clowney both had 5.5 sacks each, the lowest total for the team leader since Na'il Diggs and Damione Lewis finished with 3.5 each in 2007 (those are two names I haven't heard in a looong time). OLB coach Tem Lukabu was replaced with AC Carter and Clowney was released. Welcome Pat Jones II, Nic Scourton, and Princely Umanmielen. Amare Barno was a possibility for starting camp on PUP. 4. About the defense: Is it going to be better? Hard to be much worse. Got gashed in the run game, and that's what Morgan tasked himself with fixing this offseason. Added free-agent pieces to all three levels of the defense as well as took talent in the draft (Scourton, Umanmielen, Lathan Ransom, and Cam Jackson). But the key could be the return of Derrick Brown. 3. Is Tetairoa McMillan the missing piece for Bryce Young and the offense? The offense lacked a big-time playmaker in the passing game, which they had hoped XL would fill. TMac will allow XL to settle in while also providing an impressive catch radius for Young to throw at. 2. Is Brown ready to return to fill a huge void on the defense? The defense started coming apart at the seams after DB tore his meniscus in Week 1, and then came completely undone after losing Shaq Thompson three weeks later to an Achilles injury. After losing two of their best players and leaders on defense last season, Shaq is now off to the Panthers Retirement Center in Buffalo under Sean McDermott's care and Derrick Brown is being cautiously worked back into the fold (got to think that they're a little gunshy after Jonathon Brooks last season). 1. Is Young poised to take the next step and put the Panthers in contention for a playoff spot? Bryce's turn around after benching was so encouraging that the team decided to use their top-10 pick on a receiver rather than a defensive piece for Evero. Canales declared that the Panthers had "our guy" after the 5-TD, OT win against the Falcons and now needs Young to play well from the jump this year if the Panthers hope to end the league's second-longest active playoff drought.

4 year contract. So 2028.

I mean, I have said it before. I actually like Dave. I think he brings a lot of the stuff you want in a HC. I don't like him paired with Morgan because I think Morgan could get an axe quick. Think Tepper likes to set things up to have folks to be fired and take blame. Then the next GM is going to be looking out for himself more than Dave. and I think Dave now is sort of stuck w/ Bryce after the unimaginable Bryce rally. I think the plan was basically that we would move on from Bryce pending something insane didn't happen. They did. Then the insane still happened.

Not until he is done being paid. No idea when that is.

CJ Stroud is 23 years old and already has 2 more career playoff wins than our legendary backup. It really isn't that up in the air.

Good perspective. And it's hard to know what really was the case with CJ vs. Bryce. I do think Reich's system had basically past its expiration date and we should've obviously recognized that in our search. Coming off Rhule, we all recognized Tepper wanted NFL experience at the helm. The issue we looked past was that what seemed like a fun assembly of coaches from a bunch of different systems was not the way to approach it. Thomas Brown was thrown in too soon as OC, way over his head. Just so many factors at play. I think it really created chaos and made it a difficult offense to implement. No cohesive vision/just competing philosophies and coaching. Then come the start of last season. you're right that Bryce was still super off. Something had to get shaken out of him. I would love to see what thing were like behind the scenes during Dalton's starting period that allowed Bryce to really change his game. He still had messy pocket tendencies but the field vision/timing/awareness definitely shifted wayyy for the better once he was back. That final 6-7 games were a good indicator, so we'll see how things look to start this one.

Or he hires someone worth keeping. This round was leftovers and not even on the radar for other teams.

well, I'm not in meetings. Nor employed to make decisions. but the narrative of trust the professionals.....has not been the best defense of actions in Carolina land for some time. The biggest issue I think is time and Tepper. Can a grouping stay in power long enough to actually build a cohesive vision.

Names for guys we can't sign anymore? Great comeback from a guy adding nothing but sniffing my ass on a legitimate take and has a board name of a massive joke in the NFL.