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I guess you can question he can actually perform as such given the weaknesses around him on that front 7 and w/ a year off? If I am an opposing offense, my gameplan upfront is just Derrick Brown. Doing all I can to get to those LBs.

Vikes looked at our trading history and thought they could clown us too Can't really blame them tho

You can disagree with it if you like, but he is in fact considered one of the best backups in the NFL.

Ouch! True, but ‘ouch’ none the less…

I mean reality says this is simply not true. He is bad. He was bad with the Saints and that's why they rejected him and moved on. You are living in an alternate reality. That's why we cannot come to an agreement.

Dugger would cost $23.5 million in dead money if they cut him. Sounds like a trade is the only option. I'm more concerned about LB at this point.

I am not the one pitching a fit, frank. Again, I don't agree with this notion that Dalton is some washed up scrub. He is one of the better backup QB's in the NFL. Despite that....he isn't gonna walk in there and start rattling off wins. Jesus....what backup QB in the NFL right now is?? We. Stink. A competent backup exists to not immediately sink the ship if he has to play for a few games. Dalton is capable of that. Losing games slightly better or worse than Bryce. If you want competition for Bryce, WTF are you bitching at all of us for? You think we are David Tepper, Dan Morgan, etc? I don't have any control over the ignorant poo they do. Sure, it would be great to have invested some resources in a young QB but you also have to be realistic about this roster. It still sucks. We have holes in every possible direction, our depth is a fuging joke and our starters are about as bad. It's genuinely a luxury to be taking a young QB anywhere either than day 3, especially with how weak some of the recent QB drafts have been. And we all know that those day 3 QB's are probably less likely to pan out that some special teams caliber OL/DL/DB/etc. I don't blame them for not spamming pick after pick at QB because they already have a massive investment in Bryce. That's the fuging business part of the NFL, like it or not. If it doesn't pan out this year, I fully expect a pivot and given track record, I am quite sure it will fail spectacularly as it has almost a dozen fuging times since Cam's arm got nuked. Welcome to Panthers Nation, buddy.

I really hope we keep all 4 + 7 WRs. I like Blackshear, but Etienne has shown that he's more than capable as a returner and RB3. Idk if he's still PS eligible, but that'd be a dub if he could still be stashed.

Y’all need to stop with this. Every team with a worse record than us last season has at least one player on there. They are ranking players, not teams. I don’t think it is debatable that Derrick Brown is a top 100 player.

If we did sign him, definitely TE3 starting out. He missed almost his entire senior season due to injury. I think it was an ACL and that impacted his camp last year with the Jets. Assuming no set backs with injury, he should be fully recovered. Now he just needs opportunity. The Jets are deep at TE, so getting waived is not a huge knock for me.

The only thing holding the Texans back from being true Super Bowl contenders is Davis Mills. If something happens to CJ, they're screwed. If only both teams had the miracle man himself, Aidan O'Connell. Put your smart money on the Raiders folks! They've got a competitive QB room unlike the Texans and Panthers. But hey, maybe those Texans fans can get that QB3 they've needed to get them to the conference championship. That's all the Panthers need to get them to the postseason, apparently.

says it's predicting the top 100 for the 2025 season.

My take on this is basically this: why give up a quality player for the NFL equivalent of a half-empty bag of peanuts and a $1 scratch-off ticket? An aging player, yes. In a contract year? Yes. But still a quality player that can help us win. If they come with a serious offer that provides good value for us then it should be considered, but 5th and 6th rounders are cut every day. Even 4th rounders are coin-flips most of the time. Now, if we get closer to the trade deadline and are floundering and have little to no shot at the playoffs, then you have to consider even a lowball offer at that point, if for no other reason than giving a respected veteran player a chance to play meaningful football in what could be his last year. But right now? Teams that trade away starting WRs a week before opening day for crumbs aren't serious about competing, let alone winning. We traded Christian McCaffrey for below market value; we were forced to trade Brian Burns for less than market value because Fitterer threw any leverage we had out the window when he turned down the Rams insane offer and then failed to get an extension done. This after we traded away D.J. Moore as part of the Bryce Young trade instead of Burns, who we'd end up trading for just a 2nd rounder anyway. We've seen way too many talented starters traded away by this team over the last several years. Is Adam Thielen in the same category as McCaffrey, Burns and Moore? Obviously no, based on his age alone. But he's a good and dependable player who has been penciled in as a starting WR all offseason and if nothing else is a very good slot receiver. Why give a player like that up for a late-round pick that will most likely end up being used a player who will end up being a backup at best? Not only does it send a horrible message to the locker room, but it sends a message to the rest of the league: we'll trade our starters for peanuts. Give us your worst offer!

I am of the opinion that we keep all 4. If not, Mitchell has outplayed Evans, IMO. Evans has a good chance of clearing waivers.

It’s a list for the coming season.

Doesn't help the guy cheering you on in this is the same one that just goes around pooing posts in anger like an angst filled teenager. Appreciate the convos kungfoodude.

The fact that Darnold and Mayfield left us and played well for their next teams is just a kick in the balls for how our organization was being run.

Sad truth is Scott Fitterer put forth significantly more effort with this QB room. And he was a complete trashcan.

I completely reject this "aw shucks it sucks but what could we have done" narrative. Our FO could have not continued to treat our first overall pick like a delicate newborn and firmly explain to him that there will be new life in the QB room going forward for the good of the TEAM and it will make they and him better in the long run and drive him to step up his game. How is any of that a bad thing? Your fellow fans aren't the enemies here bub. The FO and ownership set this in motion and if you are tired of hearing about it you should talk to them. Nobody needs permission to discuss these issues.

I'm curious to see what they do with the TE room. Tremble/Sanders seem like locks, but then who makes it between Evans/Mitchell? I went back and watched all of Evans' snaps from the preseason and he did not look good imo. I thought that he looked slow, didn't block as well as you'd hope a Notre Dame TE to, and didn't look like he was providing much to the passing game. James Mitchell looked better blocking (though Okwara did march him back vs. CLE) and catching.

None of our folks are making a top 100 list until both they individually, and we as a team, prove that we are worthy of consideration outside of an area bounded by Gaffney and Asheboro. You don't get accolades with losing records year after year. And not just slightly losing records but bottom quarter of the league losing records. Sometimes the worst of the league. Ask anyone who cheers for a pro team in Ohio how it feels. They have decades of that. Well, unless you count Ohio State. They're pro, right?

Yeah, even if the Panthers and Hornets bolted, I would still watch those sports. I still enjoy the atmosphere, banter, etc.

If he comes here he'll have to change his name to Forrest Inferno.

I mean, no one in recent memory has put more effort towards QB than us. poo, look at the price we paid for Bryce, look at the revolving door at QB since Cam left. What you are bitching about has nothing to do with effort, it has to do with results. Well.....welcome to the party. Aren't we all pretty perturbed about that?

I have simply learned to embrace the entertainment in a poorly run org. I either want my team to be good enough for postseason play and that makes folks believe they can make some noise/upset anyone......OR comically bad. I'm talking big picture. Both are entertaining. And I just like to talk sports more than anything. I think the best Charlotte team to follow is Charlotte FC. I mean, even right now....with injuries, trades, etc. They SHOULD be down but they are on a 7 game win streak (hard in soccer) and are real close to locking up a legit playoff spot. I think once Dabo leaves Clemson I will have no real attachment to any sports team. Talking sports is still a healthier hobby than so many other things out there and passes the the day quick while working and waiting around at my kids billion practices.