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I'd be happy making millions just to sit on the bench.

Freddie hasnt been much better except last game, that said I think our d gets a lot better in the playoffs with line matching.

Won't he be 3rd string for the Eagles behind Hurts and McKee?

I agree with that. Moving 1 or 2 spots up, ok, depending on the cost. Moving to 1 from 9, nope. Moving to 1 from 20, I don't even want to know what that would cost. Cheap rookie contracts are the only way to really be competitive. You have to hit on your picks at impact positions to have a chance for a deep playoff run year after year. Bills and the WR group are a perfect example. Elite QB, no one to catch it.

Okay I see that we smoked them twice in 2005 Davis’ first year. The next year not so much though. Lost 20-7 and won 10-3 or 10-7.

Man... don't get my hopes up, Dan. I would LOVE to see this guy on the Panthers.

They aren't going to fire Hubert until they are sure they have a replacement Last thing they want is to fire him and take forever hiring someone else

Okay I probably should have said for a draft pick. There are times when I would be okay with maybe trading next years 1 for an established player. But not many. Think about it, you are trading 5 years of a controlled cheap contract for a contract that will probably be your largest or one of them. It is an incredible price to pay.

Brissett's stats, 280.5 YPG, 1.96 TPG, and .67 IPG, averaged out to 16 games would have been 4488 yards, 31 TDs, 11 Ints. He also had a higher YPA and completion %. You can't just dismiss stats like that and say that they don't count, because they do. That's good QB play, regardless of what the team record is. A QB that did that during the season could have competed with Bryce in camp. You think if Bryce missed is game and Brissett comes in and does that, Bryce is getting his job back? Ain't happening. And if you think it is, you're the one who's dreaming, not me.

yep - he was a FA this offseason and went to NYG. Thanks

I know it sounds bad, but they aren't addressing the position in FA with any level of success - unless Coker can stay healthy. And let's be honest, XL shouldn't have been drafted in the 1st. If they would have drafted McConkey instead like everyone here wanted, then a WR this year wouldn't make any sense. But as it stands now, if WR is BPA, then I think they'll do it. Gambling on Metchie and/or Horn may be dangerous. And Coker is really a slot that's playing alot of snaps outside out of necessity.

Freddie in net two games in a row. Rod seems to have lost confidence in the Bus

Panthers fans (in this forum) have the most bizarre obsession with cap space.

Hes not getting "market value of 15m" otherwise he would already be signed.... I'd love him here tbh his injury history is why he isn't signed and won't get the $ amount he wants.

Hes not getting that or he would be signed.....

Well it won't happen in Baltimore seeing as hes a giant

Sounds good in theory, but in reality rookies are a lot more of a crap shot than vets. They have not leveled out the FA imbalance. The defense has been poured into the last 2 seasons. The offense picked up 2 guards and a RB. The defense has an entire new defensive line sans Derrick Brown, completely new LBs - twice, Moehrig and Mike Jack. They've overhauled and upgraded every position except Derrick Brown, Jaycee and FS.

Dalton did have decent numbers that game but he was under immense pressure in Seattle in the rain. If I remember correctly, Zavala gave up 14 QB pressures that game alone. That's inexcusable and the position certainly needed to be addressed. But just think of what we could have done with a center like Frazier, JPJ, Linderbaum, or Humphrey. I realize Dan didn't have the opportunity to draft all these guys. But having a stud in the shortest route to the QB calling protections for the other guys, that's how you build for any QB to run an offense. I'm an offensive line guy. It's my favorite group on the field. I call it fat man ballet. It's a combination of quick feet, balance, bend, strength, reflexes and pure grit. Center is your core leadership on the field, tackles are a combination of finesse and strength, and guards, they're angry dudes that get to have way too much fun hitting people.

The tell will be when they start drafting olinemen. Hunt will have to be replaced with a draft pick eventually.

Kind of? Nah buddy your memory is messed up we went from getting gouged by DVD to sacking Vick 7 times a game the next year.

There are a few late rounds QBs I really like. This guy, Allar, Altmeyer, Green, Payton. But for tbe love of God, not Carson Beck

Hes probably an upgrade from Ickey pass blocking....

Sure hate to see him go but to the Sucaneers makes it twice as bad. Will miss him playing. Great name!!