DaveThePanther2008

Let the master Campen get ahold of him. He'll be a solid backup in no time.

Exactly So many want to trash the season for a QB that may or may not be any good.

He's become a Diva. He doesn't follow the same rules as everyone else. He blames everyone else but himself. He's a statue behind a bad offensive line. He wants to believe he can play forever; He's done and cannot and will not ever reach the SB again. He should have rode off into the Sunset with his boy Gronk with his final ring.

Think about what you are saying. You are going to give up a first rounder pick for a player that is 2 years removed from being drafted? That should tell you Bellicheat is trying to unload him so he doesn't have to face his mistake. Rhule maybe not this group.

BS, when it started it was about getting a QB to win the big one. That Franchise QB that everyone thinks is in this draft. Please stop. Just let it go, I have, I'm done arguing with you guys because you want to be right, but you're not. We have 1 week, if we trade away talent before then, then maybe but otherwise this team is going to fight for a playoff spot until we are eliminated from that said spot.

I'm done arguing with people that don't listen to what others have to say. You guys think we should Tank, in whatever fashion you believe, then so be it. Bottom line this team is not going to tank anytime soon so we can have a questionable #1 draft pick that 3 years down the road we are right back where we started. This team will fight for every win whether it's 1 or 10 more. We'll worry about the draft slot we get after the season.

I've insulted? You better go look who call who a moron. The argument was winning QBs in the SB. You now as usual change the perimeters. Now it's QBs that played in the SB. Maybe next you'll switch to Conference Championship games. See the thing is. The Panthers aren't tanking in any form that you want to portrait. So who's right and who's wrong. Just because you got a couple of bandwagon friends that think they know more than everyone else doesn't make you right.

@Mr. Scot Maybe it is time for you to put them back in your signature.

I don't necessarily believe this. CMC is a great player but it was a win/win for us and the Niners. they got a chance to make a move and we got the opportunity to get extra picks in the coming draft. It is still TBD if Foreman and Hubbard can pick the slack up. Yesterday they did. We'll see in the next couple of game. If the can than the move was great for us and still gives us a chance to compete.

We may not be searching for that one piece to make a difference, but we have several young players to build around offensively and defensively. You don't trade those away just for draft picks. It makes no sense especially when they are the caliber of Horn, Chinn, Burns and Brown. All of these players are on their rookie contract.

Rebuild mode got it. The conversation started with LOSING games or not trying to win games so we can get the coveted 1st pick in the draft. The tankers in this conversation keep changing the perimeters to enhance their position. How do you rebuild? 1 through 4 above. That still doesn't guarantee that we will lose enough games to get the top pick.

When you are mathematically eliminated, I have no problem with this.

I get that, but you don't do it by purposely throwing games. If we traded Burns and Shaq and DJ than we'd probably lose all our games regardless of how hard we try. Right now, we traded a big money RB for several picks. So far that's it. Until we do that, this team is still trying to win as many games as they can. Why can't anyone see that. Do you really think that the players want to give up. Do you think Wilks will go along with trying to lose and lose any chance ever again at being a HC?

I grasp perfectly fine with what you are implying. You want to give up the season and I don't. Nor do the players. So who isn't grasping the concept?

You're another one changing the argument. The argument was to lose as many games as possible to get that #1 pick. I'm done with this conversation. Bottom line I win, you lose. The Panthers will continue to try to win every game possible regardless of what the fanbase wants. They'll take whatever get as far as draft position after the season. Panther's aren't tanking. You'll just have to swallow that pill and get over it.

You mean like Mayfield or Darnold.

Not moronic at all. Tanking and wanting to tank is Moronic. So who truly is the MORON. Clearly not me.

You can also find Mahomes and Allen in the middle or maybe a Lamar Jackson at 32. Tanking does nothing but instill a losing mentality. It also prevents good Free Agents from wanting to come to a loser.

Guarantee that we'll draft a franchise QB and I'll be onboard with the Tanking. You can't, simply can't. If your GM is worth his salt he'll find one.

Not getting emotional. I just love it when you tankers lose the argument you change the perimeters.

Well before you gut a team you have to get rid of the cancer that was killing it. We did that 2 weeks ago when Tepper finally fired Rhule. Wilks has this team fighting for their season. Look if Baltimore can win with Trent Dilfer and Joe Flacco, Tampa can win with Brad Johnson. The one thing they have in common is a great defense. Our defense is pretty damn good and I want to see them try.

The argument has been winning the ultimate prize the Super Bowl. You guys that want to tank so bad are facing the reality that Tanking does not guarantee a Super Bowl nor does it guarantee a Franchise QB.

NO NO NO NO NO, don't change the argument. The argument is winning Super Bowls.

BS Nobody is nitpicking anything. Manning was a shell of himself when he was with Denver. A game manager. He was not the MVP caliber QB he was in Indy. The nitpicking is more on your side. You're using his past as justification Denver won the Super Bowl. Their defense won that Super Bowl with some help from the NFL. Just to satisfy your argument 3 QBs (both Mannings) since Elway in 97 and 98. Now what?

Tell me who that is? This ought to be fun. None of the QBs in this draft class scream Franchise.