MasterAwesome

I think it's also because virtually every topic gets derailed into a Bryce Young snark thread within like 5 posts every time. If we sign some o-linemen, it's specifically because Bryce Young = short and bad. If we don't sign a receiver, it's because he didn't want to play with a crappy QB like Bryce. Hell, even if we don't sign a no-name 4th string linebacker with 4 tackles last year, it's specifically because he didn't want to be on the same team as 5'10 Bryce Young (yes, an actual post in the Justin Strnad thread).

I mean that's exactly what we did with Everette Brown lol I know it's easy to psychologically repress that traumatic memory as Panthers fans. That wasn't even a particularly high 2nd round pick either (43rd pick), which makes it even sadder.

They spent way more on Kenny Pickett than we did on Darnold…you seem to be conveniently leaving him out in your praise. This “smart thing” they did is the equivalent of what we did last season with Baker. Every team does smart and stupid things. Also I’m curious what you thought about Tomlin at the podium at the end of last season feeding their fan base BS on Pickett being their guy, and then turning around and trading him in the offseason for peanuts. Cause I know how much you despise when coaches are dishonest and deceptive about their intentions. I hope you’re keeping that same energy for Tomlin.

It's not that people were specifically anti-Evero, but wanted to completely clean house after last season (i.e. getting rid of Evero too). I know CRA was one of them.

For those who were disappointed we retained Evero instead of fully cleaning house: this is part of what Evero brings...his connections. I'm sure a big selling point was reuniting with his old DB coach.

He played in all 17 games last season but on a pretty low snap count (25% of total defensive snaps). So probably another situational guy, but maybe Evero sees more of a role for him.

The implication is that the offense as a whole was so awful that it was hard to properly evaluate him. It's not like this is some homer Huddle take...we've seen this same sentiment echoed by actual analysts, commentators, and multiple NFL executives/coaches/scouts. Although the latter was apparently some coordinated psy-op by the rest of the league to try and trick us into keeping Bryce so that we don't rise to power. And yes Bryce was undoubtedly part of the problem last year and his performance also negatively impacted those around him. But if you have a poor performing QB, o-line, receiving corps, and coaching staff, then how the hell do you properly evaluate each of them individually when they all so directly impact one another? Well, just keep one of them the same (Bryce in our case) and bolster the rest and if we still suck and have the same issues as last year, then chances are Bryce is the problem. Or a major contributor to the problem. We should have a better idea this year and I guarantee most of Bryce's supporters will slink away if he has the type of season he had last year.

You're being sensitive if you interpreted my tone as angry. If you can't handle being challenged without getting defensive then tbh this is a strange place for you to spend so much of your time. In general I think of a plan in pretty broad terms, as in I want a general sense of what the team is trying to accomplish during their offseason rather than just a bunch of seemingly random moves with no rhyme or reason. If your personal bar for accepting that there's a plan is that you need to know how many plays in our playbook involve a playaction pass specifically to Diontae Johnson, then IMO that's a really weird impractical standard but at least your disagreement makes more sense to me. But I don't think listening to Luke Combs speaking on the Panthers, (which many have pointed out, sounds like the take of a very casual fan) that when he says he "doesn't know what the plan is", that he means he's not sure whether we're going to run 35% 5-step drops or 38% 5-step drops and exactly what percentage of hitch routes vs. slants vs. drag routes Smith-Marsette is going to run, etc.

You do understand that a *PLAN* is detached from a particular outcome, right? If I *plan* to become a multi-billionaire by age 30 but I fall short, that doesn't mean I didn't have a plan. It means that my plan failed. So I don't know why you keep pointing to our failures as proof that we have never had a plan. I have no idea if we have the coaches or talent to make things work either, that's why I said the success of our plan is TBD. But the plan is clear to me: focus on fixing the offense and evaluating/developing Bryce Young in the process. All the major offseason acquisitions point towards that being our plan. Do you disagree?

FTFY #HuddleThings

Where in my post did I mention or even allude to anything anyone *said*? I'm very clearly talking about the actions the team has taken in the offseason. The Canales hiring and the big offensive FA acquisitions.

I mean…it’s perfectly understandable to be skeptical and temper expectations. But you’re telling me we hire Canales (whose an offensive guy and known to have helped develop Geno and Baker into respectable starting QBs), we spend big on two solid guards on Day 1 of FA, we trade for a talented potential #1 WR on Day 2 of FA, and you say “if there’s some big plan I certainly don’t understand it”? Really? Either he’s being purposefully obtuse or he’s a bit clueless. It doesn’t take a genius to see what the plan is. Whether the plan actually works out or not, that’s TBD.

DJ has a ton of experience masking bad QB play from his time with the Panthers. He's always among the league leaders in YAC; last year was no exception. I don't think it's fair to hold Mooney to the same standards, which is reflected in his contract compared to DJ's.

Cause he's had to catch passes from Justin Fields. He looked pretty damn good when Dalton was throwing him the ball in 2021.

Oh yeah for sure, it's just hilarious that the need to be upset has led us down a road where we're pissed that we're prioritizing o-line over linebackers. If only the ~2010 Huddle could see us now...I guess poor Marty was just ahead of his time.

So you wanted us to prioritize and overpay a linebacker to keep him? Marty, is that you?

When the Bengals drafted Jamarr Chase, was that cause they knew Burrow was ass? When the Bills traded for Diggs, that was only because they knew Josh Allen was ass? I’m having a tough time understanding the logic here that investing in your QB = team knows he’s ass.

This year should be all about evaluating Bryce, and to a lesser degree Canales. We need to know sooner rather than later if they're the right guys for this team. The best way to evaluate them is to get competent pieces for the o-line/receiving corps to allow for them to run their offense unimpeded and remove any room for excuses and doubt. I'm fully on board even if they want to do all of this at the expense of the defense because in all likelihood we are not going to be competitive regardless, and we absolutely NEED to make a decision on Bryce at the end of this season if we are in a position to draft a QB high in the 1st round next year.

Were you hoping we all forgot how much you defended the decision not to trade Burns for 2 1sts and a 2nd at the time? And attacking people who were criticizing the non-trade? Or are you considering yourself one of these Fitterer apologists we’re supposed to dunk on?

I do find it interesting that a lot of those people hand-waving the excuses for Sam Darnold or Bryce Young are still to this day riding hard for Fields and making those exact same excuses about no talent, bad coaching, bad scheme, etc. Despite Fields being 10-28 as a starter going into his FOURTH season. I guess as long as you check the boxes for physical traits, then the book hasn't been written until you've been given 12 seasons and at least 7 different coaching staffs.

Imagine how poisoned your mind has to be to suggest that there's a leaguewide coordinated conspiracy by multiple scouts/coaches/executives across multiple NFL teams to try and deceive the Panthers' FO into moving forward with Bryce Young...because they're just so threatened by the league-worst 2-15 Carolina Panthers with no first round pick that they actually come together to orchestrate devious schemes to keep us in check. I guess we're like the Boogey Man. All this is much more plausible than the alternative that there are people outside the fanbase who simply think we were so bad that it was hard to properly evaluate Bryce. Not even saying anything particularly positive about Bryce, so their scheme is pretty half-assed I guess. And these are the people spamming "cope cope cope" mind you, who ironically are the ones who are coping so hard to explain away any opinion that doesn't align with their own. A plot twist absolutely nobody could've seen coming.

The reason you're confused is because you're treating this like some kind of bombshell revelation when it was literally just a throwaway comment on a podcast. Listen to the clip in the OP...the dude was mid-sentence and then all of a sudden switches train of thought cause he just remembered this funny little sidenote about the whole situation.

Not to mention Bryce Young is still our starting QB going into next season who we went all in on. So the organization has a million percent more incentive to try and sell us on Bryce being the answer and remaining patient and steadfast that he's our guy, rather than to deliberately plant these little seeds of dissent and uncertainty within our organization in order to.....save face for the owner's wife who I guarantee 99% of fans have never heard of (lol). That's truly one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. If we just cut Bryce and then this immediately leaks? Maybe I'd give a little more credence to this silly conspiracy.

You literally spammed multiple "fug you nicole"s in the thread during Stroud's Wildcard game.