SmokinwithWilly

This is what happens when you let your mom negotiate a quarter billion dollar contract. He should have looked at what happened with Josh Norman to see how letting unexperienced family negotiating works out for you.

I've mentioned something like this a few times and wished they had a way to test it. I didn't know it already existed and was being used. I would think it could absolutely be used in concussion evaluation. Cognitive processing is affected and having a before and after score every season could lead to being able to monitor the effects and when it's time to really pull the plug on a player for their own long term health i.e. Tua.

Losing a mentor is hard. If they really were that close, I imagine it would similar to losing a parent or sibling. I lost one of mine several years ago and I can tell you, it still fugs with my head sometimes.

Your argument was based on a single stat, QB rating. Obviously there was more to Cam's game than just passing, that's why using a single stat is so deceiving. We have to look at the big picture. And I was a big proponent of getting Minshew instead of Darnold.

I'm not sure how much experience his mom has negotiating quarter billion dollar deals but I'm pretty confident that answer is zero. Ravens aren't being shady. This is business. You bring an amateur to a major contract negotiation and you are going to get taken advantage of every single day and 3 times on Sunday. Trying to save that 10% fee could end up costing him far more. As far as SAS goes, you have 2 guys from the same network offering different versions of the story. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Go get Lamar, don't get him. Doesn't matter what you decide as long as you have the ability to build a competitive team around him. If you don't have the assets to build that, there's no point trading for him. It will only hurt you in the long run.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35666719/will-quarterback-lamar-jackson-get-franchise-tag-get-traded-become-free-agent-stay-ravens The Lamar camp is Lamar. He's his own agent. ESPN Jeremy Fowler has reported all of Jackson's counter offers to the Ravens have been for fully guaranteed money. Unfortunately for him, it also doesn't look good that he's missed 25% of the season the past 2 years and is 4 years removed from his MVP campaign. The Ravens have an advantage over everyone else in that they don't have to give up draft picks as part of the deal and they still won't do it. There's more to this than just not wanting to pay 133m guaranteed. The Browns were stupid to pay Watson what they did, fully guaranteed. That doesn't mean any other team has to be that stupid.

If the top QBs that we are really interested in are gone by our pick (barring a trade up), I wouldn't mind a trade back to acquire an extra second if possible, grab a top TE prospect and a highly ranked WR. Later in the draft, I wouldn't mind grabbing a 2nd TE like Schoonmaker if he's available in later rounds. Any QB we have is going to need that safety net. Tremble was always a receiving project, and Thomas is well, Thomas. I realize we have several needs and getting 2 TE's might be a bit much, but we have missed Greg since he retired and having that Kelce, Olson, Gronk type weapon(s) has shown to be a very big part of the best NFL offenses. At one point, the Gronk/Hernandez duo terrorized the AFC. I'm not saying we should try to repeat that necessarily, just pointing out that having 2 legitimate threats at TE could be quite beneficial for a young QB.

I live out in the PNW so I have had the "pleasure" of listening to the ranting and raving about RW for years. I can say that when they were winning, people were more willing to tolerate his behavior. In the past few years before the trade to Denver though, fans were not so into this better than everyone else version. It really put a lot of fans off. They cheered for him because he was playing for the Hawks, but that's about it. By the end, they were ready for the drama train to crash somewhere else.

All depends on how the contract is written and the length. I wouldn't want to do a 5 or 6 year contract. Shorter term, I could see doing. Anything more than 3 years, I'm not really interested in.

Teddy B career is 90.5. Cam's is 85.2. Would you rather have Cam or T2G?

Kind of ironic I think that his Pro Bowl years weren't under the guy hosting the NFL rookie QB camp show on ESPN being heralded as a QB whisperer.

Sam Darnold heading into FA once his scores are released...

Would still make more sense than listening to a Rhule press conference.

My knees hurt looking at the size of this guy

I'm pretty sure if you spelled it for him, his autocorrect brand would fix it

It's also a matter of trying to calculate where a player is rated by other teams. If Reid suspected that Mahomes was as special as he was, why only move to 10 instead of 1? Sometimes you win the gamble, sometimes you lose. It's all about maximizing value.

Marty Hurney 2.0 was a kick to the balls. That was kicking an already severely bruised set of twins

I'm not opposed but man, he always seems to be dealing with soft tissue injuries and that field we have just makes me cringe.

That looks like one serious hair helmet

I actually think it's wise to go OL every draft, but not necessarily in the 1st. I like the idea of constantly bringing in new IOL talent and constantly developing a backup swing tackle in the 2nd or 3rd if we have a spare comp lying around. It's very possible for injuries to take down 2 or 3 linemen a year, and that constant influx of youth and development is requirement for maintaining a strong offensive line.

I was referring to what Jeremiah said. I agree with you about fans complaining about the state of our oline.

As a general rule, that's true EXCEPT for last year. The only reason there's really concern at this point is the injuries to Corbett and BC.

It would also depend on if we plan on keeping Erving or not as a backup tackle. As we've seen across the league though, having a tackle that can step in and play at a high level is a bit of a luxury but a necessity to an extent. I'm sure the Chiefs would have loved to have someone else, anyone else, playing against Tampa in the SB. Dallas plugged in Tyler Smith. I would prefer to address our QB situation if possible, or get QJ, or even trade down a few spots if we can add a 2nd and 3rd and still get the best fit for what we need.

Agreed. It's all about how much do you trust the guys doing the evaluations. If you don't trust them and their abilities, why are they even in the building? As far as deals go, Fitts has made some good, some not so good. What part his and Morgan's evaluations played in player acquisition vs Rhule is unknown. I don't have an issue sending 3 1sts and a 2nd in return for the number 1, but to do so would mean that player is a 100% fit into what the team is trying to do and we're not trying to mold him into something else.

It all depends on how sure you are after all evaluations are complete. 100% sure this is a can't miss opportunity. Make the trade but be ready to stand behind it, good or bad. 60-70% sure. Pretty steep for that level of confidence. 50% - Hold onto 9 and take BPA or the positions we need to fill.