grimesgoat

Is this a joke? Are these YTD? Flott hasn't played since week 3. In 2 games played he's had 60 snaps, been targeted 6 times w/ 5 completions. Yards per completion: 13.0. 5 tackles on the year. Jones isn't much different. Played in 4 games, 75 snaps, targeted 8 times w/ 2 completions. Yards per completion 22.5. 4 tackles total. Meanwhile Henderson has logged 347 snaps, been targeted 39 times w/29 completions at 11.1 per. He has 33 tackles and 1 Int. Not bad for a 3rd rounder. We watch Henderson play and we get frustrated because he's a top ten pick. But it is a mistake to judge Henderson as a 1st rounder. He was clearly over-drafted. But as a third rounder, he's pretty decent and should improve. I have no problem with trading for him.

Dude - I'm done engaging with you. I provided a list of the last 25 or so moves over the past 12-18 months. His resume is not perfect, but it looks pretty good to me. Getting anything for Robbie was a huge win. Getting a 5th for Daley was nice and unexpected. Trading CMC was good value. He's picked up some nice core pieces in the last two drafts that could pay off. Is he perfect? Of course not. If that Burns trade was legit and he did not pull the trigger, that looks awful. That was the first time I thought he really screwed up. We'll have to wait and see. But he has done enough to convince me he knows what he is doing and can build something good.

Humphrey would have been nice in hindsight. But at the time we were rolling with Paradis and had Elflein as a backup. I think they had their eye on one of the OTs. Many thought TMJ was a steal - 6'3", 200, 4.40 speed. I saw lots of mocks of him going in the first. Getting him at 59 was great value in my opinion. Of course I have no evidence of this, but I think he was a Fitt draftee that was going to step in for Anderson in year two. My guess is Rhule went to bat for Robbie and we end up with a ridiculous overpay and TMJ riding the pine. I really think Fitt had the right idea - but Rhule fuged it up. But again, I'm not going to defend his first really early moves. He steps in the building with few resources/assets and is working with a complete dumbass. I'm sure there were better options than Elf/Erving that everyone always bitches about, but these were cheap and flexible options. Meanwhile he's tasked with getting rid of Bridgewater because he didn't fit the "brand" and he hurt someone's feelings and finding a QB out of thin air. We should evaluate his later moves, particularly the ones we know were not Rhule's dumb ideas.

I'm still bullish on TMJ. Since he started playing, he looks pretty good.

Did you read the post? I specified recent moves over the past 12-18 months that he surely had a hand in and purposefully eliminated moves that did not matter (such as 6th round picks). No one will convince me he thought an Anderson extension was a good idea. That undoubtedly came from Rhule.

I'm late to the party, but I value your opinion. Without getting into drafting a long snapper or not drafting your super-crush Trey Smith, let's take a look at the major moves Fitt has made in the last 12-18 months - primarily dealing with starters. There may be more, and I'm sure you will let me know, but I feel like these are the main moves. Tell me specifically which ones you think were fireable offences. Extend Moton. Extend DJ. Extend Jackson (i think that one was bad) Extend Luvu Draft Horn Draft TMJ Draft Tremble Draft Christenson Draft Icky Draft Corral Sign Woods Sign Ionidas Sign Corbett Sign Hecker Sign Foreman Sign Bozeman Trade for Shenault Trade for Henderson (not looking good) Trade for Mayfield Trade away Anderson Trade away CMC Did not trade Burns for 2 first and second (if true, this one has to go in the bad column). I just don't see a lot of really really bad moves on the list. The only things I have a problem with are Jackson, Burns, and maybe Henderson - although I don't think he has been as bad as people think.

until you have to pay for all these studs...

Same concept. If a draft choice today is valued as a second, and next year the same pick is valued as a first, what would you call it? That pick is just sitting around gaining value - just like an investment. The gain could be volatile depending on how the underlying company (Rams) performs, but you should still see a gain in value. I understand present values and the time value of money. The question is, can you use two future firsts to invest in order to surpass Brian Burns' net (after cost) production over the next 8-10 years? I bet a good GM could.

I respectively disagree with Verge. That's is their value if you need to cash the assets right now. But they are an investment. They will appreciate over time. And right now we have a little time as this is a lost season.

I agree he's probably not the answer. And his college career is sub-par. But when he starts, he's not too bad. He's getting better - we should give him the rest of the season. I think he is a solid tank commander.

So draft Anderson or Myles in 2023. They will make an impact right away. Then we have 4 first rounders in 2024-2025 to move around and get our franchise QB. It provides tremendous flexibility to get the guy we want. What if Young starts falling due to size concerns. We would have quite a bit of ammunition between our seconds and 4 future firsts to make something happen (if he is our guy).

clarification - Burns was the 16th pick.

PJ walker has started 5 games in the NFL. Here are his numbers in those starts: 91-137 66% 979 yds. 5 TDs, 4 Ints, 5 Sks, 3-2 record. Here are the numbers for a certain all-everything QB in his first 5 games in the NFL (pie for the first to name him): 93-169 55% 1,142 yds., 3 Tds 12 Ints, 15 sks, 1-4 record. The point is not to suggest these two are destined for the same things (as some will surely assume right away). The point is that 5 games in is a little early to decide whether someone sucks and will always suck. The second guy improved significantly over the next several years. Chances are PJ isn't a long-term solution, but good lord we're 5 games in. There is a learning curve in this league.

I'd do the deal. We're probably picking 3rd. Stroud and Young will likely be gone. So instead of picking Levis/Hooker way too early, we grab Anderson or Murphy. Instant Burns replacement on a rookie deal. Then we can see if Corral is any good, keep developing PJ, and have a ton of ammo for a QB in 2024.

Good writeup. I'd include TMJ as a core piece. It was criminal how we failed to develop him until now. With the way the offensive line is playing, I'm coming around to Young in the first despite his size. Re-sign Bozeman and Foreman. Then get a big pass-catching TE with one of our seconds. Add C/G in the 4th and we'll be a playoff team in 2024 and a superb owl contender in 2025.

I'd love that tankathon draft right now.

Too early to tank. If we win 8 or 9 games, that means we've won 7 or 8 out of our last 12. That will be as good a run as about anyone in the NFC, meaning we should expect a competitive playoff game at home. We'd probably still lose and pick 19th, but with our core in place and the picks we now have, I think we'll be in position to continue to fine-tune. There will be a good QB in the 10-20 range and we will have ammunition to move up a few spots to get him. It will be nice to play meaningful games in December again and put off the draft talk to January or so. Just need SF to continue to lose.

Of course he's tradeable. I'm sure toomers will correct me if i'm wrong, but a team getting shaq will be on the hook for about a million this year. That's all. Next year's base salary is not guaranteed. If the team didn't want to pay that, they could cut him at no cost or re-work the contract. We're the one that's on the hook for all the dead money this year and next. Gotta be worth at least a 3rd for a contending team to rent a very good LB for about a mil.

I think our roster is pretty decent, but we need a mini-rebuild. I'm on board with trading Burns. I think the $16m hit next year plus the huge money he will cost after that will be difficult to maneuver with our cap situation. I think your compensation is a little light. I'd want a 2023 1st and 4th and a 2024 1st. We need to start getting Barno some reps and bring on the blitzes. I'd also move Donte Jackson for whoever would give me a 2nd. I'd target Higgins a ton over the next two weeks. Give the guy some stats, then trade him for a 6th. Same with Robbie Anderson. Only problem with Robbie is I think there will be a dead cap hit of around 10m this year that we will need to absorb. But with Robbie and Burns off the books, our cap situation looks pretty decent in 2023. Also there is addition by subtraction here and gives TMJ more reps. This gives us 1,1,2,2,3,5,6,6 to rebuild going into next year. Draft a QB (top 5), DE (20-30), TE (31-35), and CB, S, RB/WR, DT, G, T and we'll be in decent shape. Probably win 5-7 games. Then in 2024 we'll have all of our picks plus the extra 1st to really fine-tune things and a year's experience for all the newbies. Consistent winning will begin in 2024.

Nice win boys. Suicide watch for a few.

Not sure who is lighting up. Brissett was 18-34 for 147 with a QBR of 38.1. We know you hate the Panthers but let's have a little perspective.

My father hung me on a hook once, ONCE.