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I'll be honest, after Humphries came off the board I was hoping we were trading down to the top of the 2nd. If we could have picked up a third we could use that pick to move up our original 2nd. At this point we would have had two picks at the beginning of the second, which could have possible landed the two players we ended up with. Fortunately these type of scenarios tend to work pretty well from my couch, for the front office maybe not so much. For all we know we tried to trade back and didn't find a taker. Also anytime you start to trade back you run the risk of not getting the player you really want.

For some? Yes And if they do look it up, they have to do math...

This, and the included link, should be required reading for everyone. Even if you felt like a better player was available this will at least help you understand why the pick was made. This wasn't just a BPA pick, there is more "need" to this pick then most realize. Like others have said you should start a thread with this.

If the first round talent drops off like some have suggested there might be a lot of teams looking to trade back. You can want to trade back all you want but if you can't find a partner it doesn't matter. If anything it might be cheaper to trade up this year then other years.

We seem to have a few armchair GMs around here, especially when it concerns wide receivers in this year's draft class. Here is a list of receivers that seem to elicit varying opinions. What round do you think they will be drafted in? Not when you would draft them, but where you expect them to actually go. Not really looking for people to argue over everyone's choices but more of an "on the record list" that we can look back on after the draft. I've included my very uneducated guesses. Breshard Perriman - Late 1st Jaelen Strong - Early 2nd Devin Smith - Late 1st Nelson Agholor - Middle 2nd Phillip Dorsett - Middle 2nd Dorial Green-Beckham - Late 2nd Sammie Coates - Late 2nd Justin Hardy - 3rd Chris Conley - 3rd Try to be a little specific in the first two rounds. (early, middle, late)

Who do you consider as the 1st round receivers that will be gone by the time we pick? Sent from my iPhone using CarolinaHuddle

How much game tape does the casual fan really watch on these college prospects? 40 times, along with height and weight, is pretty much all they have to go on to act like they know what they are talking about.

How many drops did he actually have? How does that compare to KB or some of the FAs out there such as Jennings or Crabtree?

What fun is that? If you don't think that our "#2" receiver is our biggest problem what would you consider our biggest issue offensively.

The visit list might give you an idea of what positions we are trying to focus on but maybe not the round. He seems to be looking at certain positions throughout the draft. This would fall in line with value based drafting (trying not to call it BPA so we don't get that started). For example we met with Parker, who probably won't be there at 25, but of the top 3 receivers he would be the most likely to fall. But we have also met with receivers that would be there in later rounds such as Montgomery or Lewis. Would be interesting to take that list and assign draft grades to each player. Some patterns might appear.

I would probably take Peat just because tackles seem so hard to find. To be honest though my knowledge of both is limited to a few highlight videos. Hopefully our coaches, scouting department, and GM will have a better evaluation of both since they have probably actually watched tape of every snap they took in college, talked to their former coaches and possible even interviewed the players.

It is easy for a lot of fans to point at certain players to explain deficiencies with their particular team. It use to be LaFell, now it's Cotchery. Here are the yardage totals for the third leading receiving options for the 6 NFC playoff teams according to espn.com. 580 - Cotchery 621 446 322 367 696 I'm not saying we shouldn't look for upgrades. I will take an upgrade at any position, but these numbers might illustrate what Magnus is referring to as opportunity cost.

I would be renting, not buying, if I was some of these guys. Special teams contributions, future potential (age), and practice squad eligibility might all factor into some of the final decisions.

I would expect us to keep 5-6 receivers on the 53 man roster. Of those on the roster right now I feel like KB and Ginn are pretty much guarenteed roster spots. That leaves the following receivers to compete for the last 3-4 roster spots: Corey Brown Bersin Cotchery Boykin Hill Presley Mike Brown Lucas Potential draft pick Potential free agent (Jennings)

So all year people claimed that "anyone" would be better than what we have, but when we sign "anyone" they complain. For those that aren't happy with this or the Oher signing who would you have signed? I didn't really notice many quality tackles hit the open market. Sent from my iPhone using CarolinaHuddle

If we are going to use a 1,000 yards as a benchmark for a quality player, Cam had two 1,000 yard receivers and Tannehill had none.

Between the franchise tag and increased risk of injury waiting to become a free agent in the NFL is a lot riskier then the NBA.

So you don't think Cam's side has thrown out a number at all? I would guess they have, it just happens to be crazy high. Maybe they are waiting for Luck and Wilson to provide leverage to get that number. But I could be wrong. Maybe Cam is determined to be the highest paid player in the league. What if we offered 6yrs/150m? Would they still wait for Luck and Wilson?

I have actually said he needed more help in the past. My point is with some posters there will never be enough "help". All I heard in 2013 was that Lafell was the problem. I guess Brady didn't get that memo. Our offense was about as bad in 2013 before the great WR purge and Bell/Chandler experiment. I'm not saying it is all Cam's fault but I have my doubts that fixing our offense is as easy as signing some "2" receiver. I think it is a combination of QB play, surrounding talent, and coaching.

I would guess his agents are already asking for the bigger number. Although Cam hasn't made a deep playoff run yet his agent could argue he constitutes a larger part of our offense then almost any other QB in the league. I would guess one of three things is going on here. 1. Team isn't convinced Cam is the long term answer yet and is content with him playing one more year at the 5th year option price. Option 1 can be risky if his value goes up, but if he is already asking for huge money there might not be as much risk as you would think. For example if he wants $23m a year now will an extra year really add that much? 2. Cam wants more then we are willing to pay. 3. (least likely) Cam wants to become a free agent and control his own destiny like you see in the NBA with some players.

Special teams contributions might play a part in these decisions as the roster is trimmed to 53.

Unless Cam is surrounded by 10 pro bowlers that clarity might never happen for some posters around here.

Maybe all three need to improve. Better coaching Better talent around Cam. Better execution from Cam. Here is an interesting article that talks about Cam leading the league in coverage sacks. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2014/2013-quarterbacks-true-sack-rate Not only can a good Oline make a QB's job easier a good QB can make an Oline look better. Personally I think Cam has as much talent as any QB in the league but I do think there is room for improvement. Luckily for us most QBs continue to improve over a much longer period then other positions. Better talent around him should help facilitate that improvement.

DG isn't going to put himself into a position where he has to take a particular position in a specific round. Our draft choices are going to be dictated by what other teams do ahead of us. This is why mock drafts are so inaccurate. Going into the draft we might want to go OT>DE>WR, but what if Parker drops to us in the 1st? Our draft could quickly change to WR>OT>RB. From looking at the visits list it is pretty clear that they are looking at certain positions throughout the draft.

The last 3 years on his contract look to be voidable years. For all practicable purposes 2015 is the last year of his contract.