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I agree Houston takes 1. But who knows with Indy. They could see themselves as ready to compete and rather throw money at Jimmy G instead of a QB because they don't like Stroud/Young. This class definitely doesn't seem as strong as last year's and I would not be surprised to see only those 2 QBs go round 1 and a repeat of last year's draft where the QBs kind of free fall a bit. I do think resigning darnold for anywhere from 5-8 mil or whatever the veteran market looks like is the right play if we miss out on Lamar. Absolutely can not go into draft night with only MC9 on the roster.

I fuging love that interaction with the kid at the end lmao. Little man thought he was slick trying to hide that Seahawks gear.

I think it depends how a lot of this plays out tbh. Does Lamar ever even reach FA? Is he tagged? If he doesn't get tagged I go that route. I don't love throwing 30+ mill at a QB but I like it even less than throwing 30+ mil AND trading several Day 1 and Day 2 picks to another team. How far up are we trading? If we stick at 18 and one of the top 2 end up falling outside the top 10 I am on the phone trying to move up. I'm not trading several years of 1sts for Richardson or Levis. I would seriously consider taking either of them at 18 without trading up though (Richardson more than Levis) I think if all 4 QBs are gone, we don't get Lamar in FA then I am rolling with Darnold and MC9 for a year and then making the decision with next years class if we want to go all in on a young QB. One more off-season/draft and nailing the HC and OC hire this team is a QB away from making noise. Whether that QB is Lamar, Corral, Young/Stroud or Maye/Williams next year remains to be seen. I'll let the new coaching staff and our front office make that decision.

poo we're gonna win on Sunday aren't we?

Maybe its rose glasses since hes on the team but man... I have a hard time not rolling with MC for at least one season. And Levis - idk how you watched those 3 games and came away with him at 2. I just see an older QB who has a cannon for an arm but he is careless with the ball, reckless as a runner, has zero internal clock in the pocket and has yet to show me ANYTHING in the last 2 years against a quality opponent. I want to like him, I love what you hear from his coaches and teammates - I just do not see it on the field. 2nd round? Sure. But not top 5.

I see one definite loss the rest of the way - Baltimore. Seattle and Cincy could be losses depending which defense shows up. The one that throttled TB12 or the one that couldn't get off the field in ATL. Honestly the rest of those I could see us being favored in every other game. I expect that the next month and a half of the season will be a rollercoaster every week bouncing in and out of a top 10 pick and leading the Division.

Get the fug out of here with that. Eddy would have shanked that one too just like he did his second shot at it. We aren't in the position to watch this poo if he doesn't make that play.

Shaq can gtfo too.

Get this fuging piece of poo out of here and just let Hekker kick for fugs sake.

Might as well put in Baker at this point.

That's Chuba.

Sorry wasn't trying to and my apologies to you if that's how you took it. Even said that DJ ball was one of the best placed throws we've seen in 4 years. I was just pointing out that historically that's been an area he has struggled in and not found a lot of success. I admittedly had no idea he was capable of that. I hope it continues. I'll never cheer for the Panthers to lose - if everything clicks and PJ turns into XFL PJ I'm here for it.

Always been the weakest part of his game too. Historically speaking, not a lot of touch on those 20+ yard throws. That DJ ball was about as good (if not better) than any throw we've seen since about week 8 of 2018.

What in the actual fug is happening lol. Is Tampa this bad or was Rhule all over the offense with McAdoo... I only tuned in at half time but this is night and day from what we saw last couple weeks.

How many other running backs were drafted in those classes before them? Ironic that you include Jeff Wilson on here when his team has already drafted 4 running backs in the last 3 years and just sent us 4 more draft picks for ours...

Sean Tucker or Chris Rodriguez in the 3rd would be my preference. Bijan Robinson in the 2nd if he falls out of the 1st. While you absolutely can find great running backs in the later rounds (just like every other position in the NFL) it quickly becomes a needle in the haystack and is more the exception than the rule (...like every other position in the NFL) for every Arron Jones there are 10 Jordan Scarlets.

If we move him I'd rather have the Raiders 1 and at least another mid round pick or 2. I hate the CMC trade. Hate hate hate it. But I can understand why he was traded - I'm just not happy with the return but there's a dozen other threads to talk about that. All that to say that there is absolutely no reason to move DJ unless its a Tyreek Hill type of offer.

Trey Lance has 5

And the draft picks as well as the player salaries on any new contracts will adjust accordingly. Every other teams cap goes up the same - we aren't going to be the only ones with money but we will absolutely be one of the least desirable locations to play. Take top offer and add another 15% we're going to have to add to outbid anyone

Now factor in the 15 million for the draft picks. Thats 20 million to sign 10 players one of which will have to be a veteran QB. Thats 2/mil a player or 1 mid level guy and a couple UDFAs to balance it out. 2024 things get interesting but then you have Brown, Chinn, Horn all coming up for extensions. We are far from set. The only hope of success for the franchise is that they hit on this draft like the Saints did in 2017 and more importantly they absolutely nail 1.01 and get a true franchise QB.

Skipped right over the fact Faulk was in the midst of a contract and demanded a trade and then held out until he received the largest contract in the history of the Rams (at the time obviously) We've seen disgruntled players shipped out for pennies on the dollar every time. Once that info goes public it tanks their value. You know that. Why do you think that trade looks so much smaller than the Erick Dickerson and Ricky Williams trades?

All this is under the assumption they don't further blow this thing up in the name of desperately trying to make this 3rd rate franchise look appealing. DJ could be traded, Burns could be traded, DJax could be traded. All moves would further cripple that 2023 number. Assuming all things stay the same and the team does something sensible and only moves Shaq - you're still adding another 13 million in dead cap to next years number. We can likely free up ~23 total from Moore and Moton. Hopefully Burns re-signs and we can lower the base salary of his 5th year option. Probably free up 10ish million after factoring in signing bonus and his new base? For simplicity lets just round it up to 35 million. Right off the bat 15 of that is gone for the rookie pool. Down to 20 or so million (maybe closer to 30 if we make some additional moves with guys like Elf, Ian Thomas, Hekker) with 42 players on the roster and the only Qbs being presumed 1.01 and MC. So like I said, enough to sign our rookies and dumpster dive or get maybe 1 mid level guy. But after seeing how this team treats its FA acquisitions (Perryman, Dan Arnold) and its superstars (Cam, CMC) you aren't getting any kind of discount. You'll have to overpay for even average guys so expect more Elflein and Irving signings rather than Woods and Corbett.

And Faulk was traded in the midst of a contract dispute. Not under team control for the rest of the season and an additional 3 years. Faulk didn't accelerate an 18 million dollar dead money hit onto his team's cap next season either. We can go back and forth. You love the trade. I don't. You're not going to convince me otherwise, I wont convince you. We can agree to disagree.

Lol thats 18 Million DEAD money next year. We are back in the negative for next season after this move. There is no "cap to spend" next season. We can make a few moved and restructures to get under and sign a bunch of dumpster dives or maybe 1 mid level players and our draft picks but thats it. 2024 the books open up but I'd imagine that evaporates quickly once Burns, Chinn, Horn, Luvu and others start inking deals. Unless of course we just trade them too.

Same franchise that gave up a 1st for Trent Richardson right?