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This one intrigues me.. maybe just a name at this point but I know early on there were talks he was revitalizing his career and flying to the ball with the Steelers. Wonder what happened there. Doubt it happens since we've got Shaq returning and Luvu/Chinn to fill in but its interesting.

Sorry thought the inference was obvious but I'd meant 3 years 25 PER so a total of 3/75 3/45 is less than he's making now. He wants that Tyreke Hill/Devante Adams money.

3 years 25 mil for a 3rd sign me up. No question.

3 is the absolute most that I would want. But what if he wants 5? What if he wants 4 tacked on in addition to his existing contract with high guaranteed money? Thats where I start to get a bit worried. I would give our 3rd in a heartbeat for him to come here and just play out the last 2 years on his contract. No questions asked. I just worry thats not what we'd be getting. And I agree, surround our QB with an embarrassment of riches on the offensive side of the ball. Do the exact opposite of what Hurney and Rivera did for Cam's career. I just dont know that 5 years and 250 million dollars for Hopkins AND whatever capital we are sending out is the best way to do that

No disagreement. He immediately is our best receiver since 08 Smitty. That said - how long is he going to be a great player. If he wants a deal paying him 25-30 million for longer than a year or two, 3 max (even that I don't feel great about that) then I'm out. Take that money and put it towards one of the top young guns in FA next year who will be in Nuks situation now at the end of their contract rather than the beginning.

I would 100% be on board with this but the whole reason he wants out is his contract no? An extension he just signed 2 years ago? That's what concerns me. If he is expecting 25million per season when he'll be 31 at the start of the season... I'm out on that. I'd rather take that money and spend it on Lamb, Higgins, or any of the younger guys coming through the next couple seasons.

He literally just said since last Friday he's told the team he's gonna play for the Jets because he doesnt want to retire yet and the Packers want to move on with Love. He's not holding anybody hostage. The report from today that the Packers want a Stafford like package of two firsts despite having zero leverage look like they're the ones holding everyone hostage.

Should have stuck around. Hes said he's going to the Jets, its his preference to go to the Jets. Packers decided to move on, he wants to still play. Only reason it's NOT done is that the teams are haggling over compensation.

"We Demand Answers" was another classic as well.

Josh McCown pretty much checks that box. The bridge QB went out the window when we traded to 1. Young or Stroud will start day 1 with the full attention of the staff being to develop them and play through their growing pains. I think your Brissett/Jimmy G type bridge guy would happen in the event we stayed at 9 and took Richardson/Levis or Hooker in round 2. I imagine that ship has sailed. If a vet QB as a backup comes available we may sign someone on the cheap but anyone with any aspirations of starting or making money will looks elsewhere.

6 mil per?!?!?! What a great deal. Excited doesn't even begin to describe it!!

So Chinn back to LB full time? Buffalo Nickel? Big signing for us! Hope the numbers are solid.

Levis will be 24 when his first OTAs start. He is the same age as Justin Herbert and 2 years younger than Burrow, Allen, hell even Sam Darnold and other QBs getting ready for or entering their second contract in the NFL. Despite that age, he is not nearly polished enough as a prospect to make up for the 4 years you're losing. Look no further than his pro/cons, strength/weakness on every scouting report. Do any of them rave about the normal BS you see for 5 year QBs about him being "wise beyond his years" or his "football IQ" "maturity" or any of the other keywords? Nah - its all (and rightfully so) he physical tools. The biggest pros for Levis are that he has the prototypical size, has a good build, decent athleticism and an absolute cannon of an arm. Instantly have the strongest arm of any Non-Cam QB we've EVER had. My biggest issue is that he's never put it all together in an entire game against a team that isn't like a Youngstown state or comparable level. Hes never had a game where he has curb stomped a bottom feeder SEC team like Vandy, Missouri etc. When you watch his games, he can't throw to his left, he doesn't take care of the ball, has no internal clock whatsoever in terms of pressure, holds the ball too long and as the season went on obviously developed the yips (probably a combination of his oline and the toe injury he had) and he honestly gives me big time Sam Darnold vibes when I watch. For me he is firmly in my number 4 slot. If we are going to take a project based on physical attributes I would gladly take Richardson who is a better athlete and 3 years younger. Regardless if the staff and Fitt/Morgan like him I'll trust their collective judgement over my own, hope I'm wrong and cheer like hell for this guy.

Man we (as a board) do this same song and dance every year lol.

Richardson will be there at 9. Levis probably will be too. We won't be though. I really think this staff moves up to 1/3 to take Young/Stroud FA and pro days still have to play out and we still have a couple QBs still playing musical chairs for new teams.

Cam will always hold a special place in my heart and I would welcome him back in a heartbeat as the vet in the room for Stroud or Corrall (or both) But that ship has long sailed. His return was probably the highlight of the Rhule era.

He said "go play Superman" so the answer is obviously RETURN OF ACE BOOGIE /s

Opening pressers are hardly worth putting any sort of stock into and we don't need to look further back than some of the more recent "memorable" ones. Everyone on this board mocked Dan Campbell's presser with the biting the knee cap blurb. Everyone on this board laughed at what a bumbling buffon Nick Siriani sounded like in his opening presser. Lot of these guys its their first shot being "the guy" and a part of that is learning how to handle the media. I could care less if a guy has anxiety public speaking to the media or if he has awkward quirks or anything like that. Only thing I care about from my head coach is whether or no he is a good dude and whether or not he can coach his players. If the answer to both of those is yes, sign me up.

Basically leaves us, Indy and now Philly with OC promotions for Kevin Patullo and Brian Johnson. One of those teams is getting left at the alter - hopefully isn't us. I guess Jim Bob isn't a bad fall back option but personally wanting Steichen as our HC I'd hate to not get someone from that Philly offense in the door.

Stop it. You can not like Pat McAfee, you can think he's annoying, loud mouthed or whatever other words you want to use to describe his version of sports media you clearly don't like. There is absolutely no scenario or universe where he is even remotely close to being "shittier" or even as terrible as Brett Favre is. The closest thing to a scandal McAfee has is an arrest for public intoxication when he was in his 20s. On a scale of 1 - Stealing money from fuging Medicaid recipients in the poorest state in the country... that may be a 1.

Lol. Think we'd call this a win.

He was already had the "Assistant Head Coach" title with the Lions so curious what his official role with the team will be. I'd still like one of Brian Johnson/Kevin Patullo for OC.

I'm gonna be honest I've heard this quote at every corporate funcintion and training class I've been in for the last 7-8 years in sales, mortgage lending and presently in Healthcare. And you've got it wrong. The true quote, which was originated as a misquotation of the Fench Poet Voltaire and made famous by Jim Collins Book Good to Great is: "Good is the Enemy of Great" In the chapter of the book he goes on to explain how as a country we don't have great schools, because we have good schools. We don't have a great government, because we have a good government. The vast majority of people love good lives rather than great lives because it is so easy to settle for good lives. I mean no offense to you but flipping the quote as a point of support to hiring Wilks is at its very core the literal essence of that true quote. Good enough sucks. It does, especially if you are capable of much much more. Wilks was good enough to right the Panthers back to a 6-6 finish. He's probably good enough to hover around that .500 mark. Then what? The 2023 Panthers would just be the next in a long line of Panthers teams to never have back to back winning seasons because the Carolina Panthers have consistently been "good enough" I'm not saying Frank Reich is going to get the Panthers to be great. Nobody knows that for sure. I would say I have more faith in his understanding of how to get a team to be great in today's version of the game. He is a much needed deviation to the norm for us as an offensive minded coach that has produced top offensive units helmed by Carson Wentz, The corpse of Phillip Rivers, Jacoby Brissett and Andrew Luck. His connections and eye for talent are great.

Wasn't my first choice but I can get behind it. Go get Fangio as DC, Patullo as OC retain Campen and Tabor. Find a QB and lets do it! Welcome aboard Coach.

I by no means hold that play against him whatsoever. I could talk myself into any of the three known candidates. Steichen was my choice but seems that may not have materialized how anyone hoped.