Khyber53

Step 1: Hire Luke to come back and teach both offensive and defensive coaches how to watch tape. Step 2: Pray.

I gotta disagree with this. Shaq was a very good LB. He just stood in the shadows of two greats. And this team has felt his loss from the injuries and now his moving on. We were better against the run with him here.

Bad teams with new coaches that want to make a splash with big passing games kill young QBs. Solid teams that can lean on the run and play-action give a chance for QBs fresh out of college to grow and learn how to dictate a game. A lot of these guys, and maybe even Bryce, aren't horrible but they are being asked to go in and be something unrealistic. They are expected to be able to put out raging dumpster fires after being handed a bucket and being told to go find some water. And I think we see some of these guys who were labeled as busts eventually developing into serviceable, sometimes decent, sometimes quite good QBs when they land at a well-built team with good coaching and a solid identity. Mayfield, and Darnold are two that come to mind right now. And the two Joneses are certainly showing more in Indy and San Fran than they'd ever really shown before. But we're a shoddily built team that has been weakly coached into a softer style of football that puts crazy amounts of pressure on young QBs. Heck, even Andy Dalton with his experience really couldn't sustain any results here.

And Tremayne certainly had his moments. But XL... sheesh. Sometimes the move from Peckerwood to Hollywood is just too much.

They couldn't beat Greg and Luke's peewee team. Honestly.

Tanking, as I've said before, requires a conscious effort to avoid winning. This team has no choice but to lose. They couldn't beat UNC-Charlotte.

He'll be the sacrificial goat for this. And that'll give Canales another couple of weeks. It won't change a damned thing, though. This pile is turds all the way down.

He's terrible. Coaching is terrible.

And I'm out for the season. At least I lasted longer than the team did before giving up. I've been following this team since day 1, and I haven't given up on a season since 2001. Life's too short, though, to watch stuff this bad. I guess I'm just going to treat it like I was out of the viewing network and just watch other games and just look for the box score. I can't sit through another march to the first pick in the draft.

There's an old adage that with a WR, you really don't know what you've got until the third season. Still, dude needs to pick it up or he'll be struggling to get called off the bench to participate in that third season much.

No, just no. Let's ride this thing out.

I'm with you on that one brother. Pretty similar here. My buddies from college and I still play each week together on a conference call. Sheesh, we've been gaming as a group since 1988. Man, I feel old.

Sheesh. I need to find me a good group to sit around the table with and roll dice. Anyone in Greensboro?

Seemed like everything was going great for her up until then. I guess we never can know how things are offscreen, or how much stress there is from that much success. She certainly seemed to be an original character.

Latest video I wrote is out. While I try to write with no bias, I have to say I am not 100% sure that the right guy was convicted. Let me know what you think.

Thanks for the work in putting this together! Excellent read.

Yep. Blaming Bryce for everything right now is like saying that one peanut is what makes the whole turd stink.

I'm going to agree with the original premise of the thread, at least to some degree. Our defense was historically bad last season. And, from the looks of the first week, it's no better and possibly worse. We just allowed Jacksonville to get 200 yards on the ground on us. Rushing yards... frikking rushing yards. Even with a good QB, it would be hard to give up that much, not to mention 32 points a game, and come out with even close to a winning record. Bryce is struggling, failing, but he's not the only problem. We haven't had a decent defense since Tepper pretty much dictated that we move to a 3-4. It hasn't worked and Eviro can't seem to coach on top of that.

Rather than his physical stats, I was kinda alluding to the fact that Kyler hasn't lived up to the hype either. Although, he has had some modest success for short stints. The thing is, both teams could have probably had the same success rates with third round picks as QBs over first rounders. Yanno?

Yeah, I've been torn up all week about this. And I'm going to be honest, you and I don't know poo about what is going on with the team. Are they losing the locker room? Not seeing anything from the players about that, just seeing it on forums like this. Are they concerned? Yeah, I'd think that would be a reasonable assumption. Are they rallying around Bryce? Yeah, that I'm seeing from the stuff we see of the players. Is some of it a bit drummed up, quite possibly. Is some of it genuine care and belief in their teammate, yeah most definitely. What is Morgan going to do? Hell, that was just week 1. And week one is often a liar. Once in a while it tells the truth (and that sure was an ugly one to tell last Sunday). Most often, it's just what it is. Half the teams that played in week one lost. Straight down the middle. Sometimes it was a close game, sometimes it was a blowout. We got punched in the face, had our lunch money stolen and Jacksonville kissed our girlfriend. Me, I saw a team that wasn't up to speed yet. We were playing like this was the fourth pre-season game like we used to have. We're going to learn a lot about Bryce, this team, our coaching and team management after this week's game. It's against the Cardinals, a team that has always been one of those benchmarks for it. Beat them and good things happen (remember that killer game Julius Peppers had against them), lose and it often starts the fast slide to the bottom again (sadly, that playoff game with Jake...). Right now, the Cardinals have their Bryce Young, except their guy still has a better PR department. They have a meh-ish defense. They have a star WR that is underperforming and was possibly over-drafted. They don't have many stars to speak of and dwell around 3rd-4th place in their division on a regular basis. In other words, they are pretty much on par with us. And they are a forgotten team as well, playing games in obscurity. So, yeah, we're going to learn the tale of the season this weekend. And honestly, if we lose like we just did or worse, and I was Dan Morgan, I'd be working on polishing up that resume`.

NIL money has changed the college game, particularly at the QB level. There's a character development aspect that isn't happening anymore and not just in leadership, but in the idea that you have to pay the dues, earn your spot and overcome. And then we ask these half-baked products to come out on opening week in their first year (or second or third even) and take the world by storm. They didn't have to back up Brett Favre or Joe Montana or anyone for that matter. The only one I can think of that had to ride the pine before taking the reins was Love in Green Bay and once he took over for Rodgers he showed maturity and an understanding of not just the game but his place within it. I know, I know, old fart yelling at the clouds. Yadda yadda.

The proverbial no, not that Josh Allen, the other Josh Allen, right? The guy who posted 0 tackles/ 0 assisted tackles, no sacks, no forced fumbles, no INTs for the game, right? I know he's supposed to play end but he was a non factor.

As much as I want to gnash my teeth and say that he's not going to make it, there's some wisdom in your observations. There was less to really blame on Bryce than we want to. He wasn't great, but he wasn't the reason we lost that game. Our o-line wasn't working well. Corbett couldn't make the snaps and was ass as a blocker. Our back-up LT wasn't prepared for the ferocious (really???) Jacksonville pass rush. We weren't getting much push from the line in the running game, once again lacking at center and LT. Our receivers could NOT get open to save themselves. And when they did make a catch, it was tackle and down. But our offense really didn't lose that game. Our defense did. Our defense may suck worse than it did last season and it's glaringly obvious that it has been poorly coached, poorly built and poorly used once it is out on the field. And Bryce, well, he doesn't play defense. But then again, not sure many of our players can.

Game one is a bit early for the "on pace" thing. Jacksonville would be "on pace" for 3400 yards of rushing this season...

Oh, I agree. Josh and Lamar are both the next evolutionary step in QBs from the line of players like Cam. They have that something extra. And honestly, they are still prototypes of what is yet to come. This game evolves.