Khyber53

Trevor Lawrence. And on the quarterbacking prowess of Reich and McCown we have to remember that both of them had long careers as journeymen back-ups. This wasn't Marino and Favre. Both guys spent a lot of time on the bench and if they were your starting QBs, your team had some major problems. They were good men to hold a clip board and see you through a short, short spell, but neither one lit the fields on fire out there. And Reich's tenure as QB here was even shorter than his tenure as a coach. Just saying their resumes look great on paper but neither one had a whole lot of win in them. Modest skill sets, good at learning systems, non-threatening back ups. In their heydays, Jake Delhomme would have taken their jobs away from them. Not suggesting Jake as coach, though. Although the pressers sure would be interesting.

Our QBs couldn't play and our running backs couldn't run. Seems like the coaches for those two rightfully lost their jobs.

Honestly, we need a Head Coach on the defense side of the equation. One who can pick a competent OC and QB coach, then stay out of their way. Our identity is a stout defense and a punishing running game. Get back to that and they can open up a world of opportunities for Young or whoever we install behind that dotted line we have.

I don't disagre with you at all.

I am going to say this: Frank Reich is a good man and outside of football I think he's admirable. Honestly, he should have taken a year off between head coaching assignments and retooled his philosophy. And maybe, just maybe, he was a heck of an OC and QB coach, but just hit his ceiling back then. I wish him the best in his future endeavors, but man, it was obvious that this was not working out with him here.

Me, too. And obviously, unquestionably, without a doubt, blindman find it in the dark good. Like heralded by the trumpets of angels good. But, like when we fired Rivera and hired Rhule, then fired Rhule and hired Reich, I'm going in with this caveat: "What we get may be worse than what we jettisoned." I was right about that when we let Rivera go. And again after Rhule (and who in the world would have thought that, not me even). Let me be wrong this time, let me be wrong! Please.

Honestly, I don't know. We could be both surprised and angered by who we pick up. And I don't think Belichick is going to be free (not that I want him). I think Belichick is doing the most covert tank job of all time so he can have pick number 2 in the draft AND get the QB he wants.

Honestly, if I'm a young coach, I'm going in with the understanding that this can make or break me and that any HC opportunity I will ever get (barring a HC retiring) will be with a wounded or floundering organization. If I'm an experienced HC looking for another crack at the big time, I'd move in with some caution, realizing that almost no one gets a third HCing shot in the NFL. I'm also looking at those high dollar coaching contracts Tepper has given out and how he's still paying for them even after they are gone. Maybe I can make it work out and get some serious concessions, or I can wipe my tears away with hundred dollar bills. Coaches, particularly those with the drive to get to the NFL, will leap into the lion's mouth for a shot. It's built in their DNA; if it wasn't, they wouldn't be head coaching candidates. Look at Campbell moving into Detroit and Payton heading to Denver... both ran into trainwrecks of teams and organizations. Opportunity or a truck load of money, whatever it takes, the temptations are there.

Oh, I didn't say we'd get a good one, just that the list would be long and deep. Unless we get some very good consultants and Tepper can take his football "knowledge" out of the equation then we won't do any better than before. But no matter the situation there will be a ton of candidates for the job.

I see you're looking at it incorrectly. Let's see what transpires and see who was right.

The list will be long, the job is that much of a rarity. And, honestly, with Bryce we could end up with a situation like the Jaguars did... new coach, new plan, better ability, and you start to build a guy worth the pick. And I'm betting that as soon as the offseason hits, we will get Burn's contract nailed down for a mint and then promptly trade him to a team for a mid-round first round draft pick.

You're going to be surprised by how long that list will be. It's not a matter of what state the franchise has been or who the owner is... there are only 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL and that puts each job in a very coveted position. Really. Tepper has probably gotten 20 resumes from agents already this morning. Not only is the opportunity to become a HC a rarity, the financial gain from doing so is astounding. And even if they flame out, it adds massively to their future income if they move back down to the college level. Matt Rhule, as much as I dislike his coaching, is rolling in bucks right now. Me, I'm just hoping that after Fitterer is ditched, Tepper hires on some serious consultants to help him make the decisions for HC and GM. He may have made the decision now just simply to get first crack at hiring those experts, since we know that at the least Washington will be doing the same.

He's mentally blocking out travel dates in January for family vacation.

We look every bit like the worst team in the league. And that's against one of the bad teams in the league.

Well, if you can't stomach watching the game, here's my latest story. The guy's been married six times, buried four of them, terrorized the other two. What a mess of a human being.

I'll be watching. There's only so many Panthers games we get within our life times. Sucks that these are the ones we've been getting...

Yep, who knows how it would have turned out had he had some coaching and a chance here. Lord knows it couldn't have been much worse.

Well, if nothing else, Will has made a nice little nest egg to start his life off by being able to regularly show up for practices of three NFL teams. I wish him the best. Heck, hope he catches on somewhere else. The way QBs are going down around the league, he's actually got a shot to go back on and maybe even start... The Jets maybe...

Okay but they better make them both sit on the sidelines and watch the game intently from beginning to end. If we've gotta watch this crap, they ought to have to as well!

Henry is going to run over us. And we'll have another round of "we could have drafted that QB instead." Yippee. I'll watch, but it's going to be like watching someone kick my favorite dog.

Let's give Horn an incomplete. Out of all of those, the only ones that are performing up to draft position this season have been Chuba and Tremble. That's sad. I've been saying it for years now... we need to completely rehash our scouting department.

Yeah, that oughtta work...

Haven't we done enough damage with Colts mid-season cast offs already?

A lot of truth here in my opinion.

Not sure we'd do worse just trotting four OL guys out there and giving the water boy a 71 shirt to wear and head out with them. This isn't a professional football team anymore. Might be competitive at Division III level. JUCO maybe.