Khyber53

Yug, no.

Who cares? Second most boring sport played in America. THE most boring sport played in America. Our team is there for contractual reasons today. NBA plays so many games that each one is meaningless. NHL season could be five games long and they'd all be meaningless. All I want is a decent Carolina Panthers team and a chance to watch them win a game. Apparently, that's frikkin' impossible.

Henry who?

Someone needs to glue Tepper's ass to his stadium seat. If we've got to watch this crap, he should have to as well.

And yet, he still outperformed every and I mean every offensive player we had. Look, it's just crying over spilled milk now. He's gone. We aren't getting him back. What is done is done. Let's just move on and suffer through the rest of this godawful season they have given us. Suckitude, the gift that just keeps on giving.

It looked pretty rough at the ends of both the Knox and Cowher reigns... just saying.

That sounds completely crazy. Unless you've watched the games. Without CMC, can we even get within FG range unless we somehow get a turnover inside their 30? We were unbelievably bad as of last week. Now, oh this could be historically bad. Like, wish we had Chris Weinke back bad.

Sure, why not? It just means that Rhule, Fit and Tepper have successfully turned us into the NFL's farm team. Woot, we're Triple AAA minor league now. Who else will get called up to the big league. fug this.

Really, sits right there in the middle of league standings since 2007? Why don't you do the math, show me the stats and I'll believe you.

The Saints game was them playing their worst, with a lot of injuries. And if you think we were ever in that game against an injury depleted Rams team, you are just looking at the score. We were downright pathetic. We were getting our asses kicked again and again and again. Getting rid of CMC didn't insure us of losing out, we were going to do that anyway.

I still think he's the unflushed turd in the bowl.

Let me reiterate... it's not tanking if every team was already kicking your ass and you were completely unable to stop it. You can't tank and suck worse than this. We have organically grown, no additives, free range, non-discounted, dyed in the wool suckage of the highest order. To tank would mean we could do something about it. We can't. We are that bad. The stank doesn't lie. It can't lie. It sure will linger, though.

If I had even the slightest bit of confidence in team management and ownership, I'd be looking at a glass half full. Instead I'm looking at a poorly lidded sippy cup knocked onto the good carpet and grape juice is staining the hell out of the rug. None of these guys were ready for the job they have been given.

It's a fair argument. Three wins in the last 10 years. Eight playoff wins, including a Super Bowl, for his career. And since 2007, his team has only missed the playoffs twice. In a league built on parity, his legacy is pretty darned good. Our fanbase would kill for that kind of record.

That should tell us all we need to know. And that was, oh yeah, when Tomlin had all those losing seasons. Oh, I forgot, he still has never had a losing season in his entire career. And Tepper has four in a row... Tomlin is going to go down as one of the great NFL coaches, first ballot HoF guy and one of the pillars of the league. And I am certainly not a Steelers fan, but that guy is one of the best ever and in the top three of this generation. Maybe top two.

You make a lot of sense. I'm still going to be mad about this for a long time. And yeah, I hope CMC has a great career there and gets a ring. Not as revenge, but because he's a dynamite player and seemed like just a great guy and teammate the entire time he was here.

We didn't just give up an RB. We gave up our best running back. We gave up our best receiver. We gave up the only guy we have who can block behind the line in pass protection. We gave up the only sharp offensive tool in our toolbox that could be counted on for next year. We gave up the guy that was producing basically 2/3 of our offense. And the best pick we got for it is at the level where we picked Terrace Marshall, Jr. and Yetur Gross-Matos. Woot woot, Fitterer the genius strikes again.

Wonder if Tepper will get out one of his old Steelers jerseys. I get the feeling the other owners of the Steelers were happy to see him go.

So, let's see... we need a good HC, OC and DC, plus positional coaches, trainers and medical staff. We need a QB, desperately. We need a WR1/2. We need a TE. Oh, and now we need to replace a RB who made up 75% of our offensive yardage. That'll be easy. (And our back-ups are barely back-up quality... no one waiting in the wings). We need a new team owner. And for fug sake, let's get a new GM because this guy is a certified sucker who can't judge talent. Oh and he thought Robbie Anderson was worth millions upon millions of dollars. Yeah, the rebuild. I'm so frikkin' expecting this to work.

fug this. And fug Fitterer and his "in on every deal" bullshit idiocy. And I wouldn't piss on Tepper if he was on fire.

If our QB would throw a 10-yards-in-the-air pass more than twice a game, maybe we could see some better stats out of DJ. It's not him.

He'll get a shot. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. He could come back and win five games and he's still not our answer at the position. The next coach and gm will get to make the choice of who our QB is. At this point I'd be amazed if any of the three starters we'll have fielded by the time Darnold takes the field will be with the team next spring. Corral and Eason may be our two most experienced guys in the QB room. And that'd still be an improvement.

You're exactly right. Look at what the Giants are doing this year. Had we jettisoned Rhule last season, I think we'd have probably been sitting here with the current Giant's coaching staff in a much lighter shade of blue than they are wearing now. Our personnel aren't that different, but the coaching is miles apart.

Honestly, there are ways to fix Shaq's contract. What we can't easily do is replace Shaq's ability and leadership. One thing we have to look at, when it comes to on field performance, is that Shaq has been hybrid played since Snow got here. Even as a MLB, Shaq spends most of his time dropping into coverage as part of Snow's Wonderbread-soft defensive scheme. He's pretty good at it, but he's also great against the run. He can't do both on every play, but you'd oftentimes see him in coverage and then having to mop up against the rushing attack. Part of that is scheme and part of that is that Snow relied on scheme more than he relied on situational decision making. Injuries to DBs over the last couple of seasons have made that even worse and pulled him more and more away from the line. Shaq's greatest strengths lie in speed and tackling ability. When positioned properly, or allowed to roam a bit, he is great at run stops behind the line. He can just get skinny when he needs to and break through. The guy is actually a good pass rusher, too, but that has been de-emphasized since Rhule came to Carolina. Lastly, look at the cast of characters he's had around him in the LB group. He is the ONLY continuity we've had there in three years. Luvu came in last season but was used only situationally that first year. Linebackers hunt as a pack, so to say, and that group instinct just hasn't been there. Of course, we haven't had Luke and Thomas Davis back there with him... oh what I'd give to have that trio back. Wow. I think they should work with Shaq to restructure his deal. The guy has been a stand-up team player and leader since he got here. He'll make the move and stay hometown. If he is made to go, though, we're not going to find an easy replacement and our defense will fall apart like our offense has.

Can we now talk about Robbie being a total idiot without being called a racist? It's not about how he speaks or posts, although those would make me wonder about the college education he received. It's not about not knowing that Sir Purr wasn't a bear. It's more about the whole body of work. He was, and is, an idiot in full bloom. And like with the dismissal of Rhule and Snow, the team is experiencing addition by subtraction right now.