Khyber53

We'll know by week 3 if it is time to just blow this whole thing up and try to get in on the Mike Tomlin bidding wars. We've been the most lackluster team in the league for almost a decade now. Remember when we tried to win pre-season games because YOU fuging TRY TO WIN EVERY fuging GAME?????? Now we just want some smooth vibes going into the season.

We've been worn down. Ground to nothing. I've always been one of the "it's going to work out, have some faith" guys on this board. Last guy off a sinking ship and all that. Folks, I've had a lot of health issues this year and it dawned on me after the last preseason game, I may just not have another year left in me, and I sure as hell don't want to spend much time from it watching this same old poo go down again. I've loved this team, still do, but there's got to be something from them for me to continue with this. This relationship has become toxic for me and well, I may hit the eject button early in the Panther's season to go and see other things in life. I don't believe in Mushy-head Morgan building a team, he was the dumbest linebacker of his group here. I sure as hell don't believe in the team ownership, just another bunch of carpet-bagging Northerners coming down here and telling us how we were doing it all wrong. I barely believe in Coach Canales but think he's been saddled with terrible OCs and DCs and position coaches because that's all that would come here. I'm just fuging tired of this. And from the sound of the board, I'm not the only one who is feeling ground down.

Like it would even help...

I sure hope you're right.

I think Bryce needs to play again next week anyway. He looks great in training camp where people are barred from hitting him. He looks meh in preseason games where second stringers are allowed to take shots at him. I'm feeling pretty antsy about his capabilities. We can't wait each year for him to kick in during week 8. Especially not with another "defense" by Ejero. Only DC in the league that doesn't believe in tackling practice. Just hands the players a pamphlet and hopes that they read it.

Yeah. I didn't want to say it, but if your team is putting out this kind of effort, even in a preseason game, you need a coach on the sidelines chewing out someone and letting them know their careers are literally on the line here. If you are trying to make it on one of the worst teams in the NFL over the last five years and you can't show out, then you aren't going to get chances elsewhere. Mr. Friendly-friendly might not be the answer here.

Well, right now looks like we will be looking at a clean sweep of QB positions next season. And OC. And DC. This team doesn't look like it's prepared for primetime. 52 yard field goal is the highlight for our team this game. It feels like that might be a common situation this season. Maybe I'm over-reacting, maybe I've just seen this before. So many times before.

Well, right now, looks like we're dog poo again. Gonna be a long year.

It can be, but let's be honest, at the bottom of the depth chart, the only people it usually matters to are the players who find themselves with a jersey the first weekend of September. On the field, outside of special teamers, not much time will be spent under the camera's eye.

We will be what they say we are until we prove them wrong. We were supposed to suck big time in 2003. Let's see that play out again.

Snagging a lot of castoff players from a single team doesn't seem like a very good thing, does it? Really, think it through. If it was one guy, maybe two, you can say they didn't fit scheme. Three or more and you are just looking for hand-me-downs in hopes that their DC, with a winning program, was just missing on picks and pick-ups regularly. That doesn't play out.

I think we really need to see more before we have any sense of how we're going to be. I want to be optimistic, but what I saw out there was just first preseason game effort and capabilities. Nothing to write home about and nothing that's going to win many games. They didn't look horrible when the 1s were in there, just kinda, well, pedestrian. Tet made that one catch everyone is raving over, but otherwise he was meh and had the rookie drop in the endzone. XL was doing nothing before getting ejected. Our TEs were doing meh. Offensive line didn't have the push and were showing how just missing one of the starting guards hurt. Bryce looked more poised, but it's about time he did. And I know that it was a vanilla game plan called by the OC rather than the HC. I understand there were a lot of moving pieces just trying to find their places and paces. It's just the first preseason game and nothing should really be taken from it. We don't know what the coaches were trying to see and why they called certain plays. It's all just evaluations on their end. But it's evaluations on our end, too. And for that, they still get an incomplete. (And don't get me started on the defense, which really doesn't look any better imo.)

About Ejiro Evero... this is a prove it year for him. I haven't believed that he's the guy, I just didn't see the schemes last season or before. He just doesn't look like a good DC to me, at least right now. I sure hope he proves me wrong, but last night their 2s were beating our 1s, their 2s beat our 2s and so on. Defensively we sucked.

Umm, best I can say is that we've still got a lot of work to do. We've got the pieces, but this puzzle is far from put together. Our 1s were struggling against the Browns' 2s. (And there are a lot of ways to read that sentence.)

He may end up in Indy... they seem desperate and now have a pinkie problem.

I wish I could say it was different, but he's right. And I'm not sure how good our starting MLBs are, either. I still miss the 4-3 defense, but aside from that, we haven't prioritized MLB since Shaq was drafted. And it shows. Hopefully someone will show out this year. Roseboom, he's your shot.

Anyone want to start a non-money league?

In his defense, and really, all kickers... if you're regularly needing to kick 50+ yarders, then there's a problem with the offense. But yeah, he was bottom third of the league level. Still, it's hard to find someone who can be top 2/3 of the league level. Kickers, man, they'll kill ya.

So, um, why did we let Eddie go? I'm sorry, but somehow I just missed what was the actual reason.

He ain't coming here.

As for Bryce, good to get the misses out during early training camp.

Used to be I never thought I'd ever have to take more medication than an aspirin every now and then. Now I've got one of those pill sorting things. It doesn't creep up on you... it leaps on you outta nowhere!

I hope Deion will be well now, he's been battling a lot of health issues, as do almost every person of his or our age. Even one of the greatest athletes of his time has had to battle with health issues and thankfully it seems like he's been on top of things. Learn from him and stay on top of things, especially after 40. You really, really aren't as young as you feel.

Yeah, I believe he will. That body of work, the 15-1 season. His cleats are already there. The only thing that could keep Cam out is a scandal of some kind.

As someone once said of Chris Collinsworth as a player, "If they had a hall of the really, really good, he'd be in there." As much as we love them, TD and Greg probably aren't getting the gold jackets, unless Greg gets it for broadcasting way down the line. Both were excellent players, and heroes locally, but not on the national note HoF level of Pep, Luke, Smitty or Cam (eventually).