kungfoodude

Well there isn't going to be a real benefit to making the move midseason other than to make this an even more less attractive spot than it already is. There isn't going to be any real improvement even if we did. What evaluation is there to be made? On a bunch of PS players? Just let it be what it is and when the season is over evaluate what you want to do moving forward.

Fight??? Sheeeit. We are down to the "just happy to be here" MFers on that side of the ball.

There is literally no point in firing him this season. The season is long gone. It was over before it started. If they want to evaluate him after the season, so be it but firing him mid-season isn't going to net any benefits that actually impact the game outcomes. This is a historically bad defense. That's who they are.

We dropped from 26th and 27th in the NFL in TO's forced the previous two years to 32nd last year(currently 16th this year). We dropped from 39 sacks and 35 sacks in the previous two years to 27 sacks last season(on pace for 21 sacks this year). Also if you look at the stats when we Blitz versus don't blitz over the past two seasons, we get ANNIHILATED in the passing game versus running our normal scheme. I mean, it is fuging UGLY the difference. Also generate way more sacks.

And that may prove to be true. But until we invest substantial resources into fixing the defense, I am not going to call for his head.

We don't know if it's a Evero issue or not in terms of talent evaluation. Perhaps he has the power to "pick his guys" or perhaps he doesn't. I am not here singing the man's praises but I also don't see how you can blame FO moves on him. If the DC is responsible for drafting and free agency moves, WTF are Dan and Co. doing? But the point still stands, what DC in the NFL are you going to drop into this situation and it substantially improve? The overwhelmingly biggest issue is talent. As our defensive talent has steadily declined over the past few years, so has our defense. poo, you know when the last time we finished in the upper half of the league in both Yds against and Points Against was? 2017. We have been in the upper half of the NFL in yards against in 2023, 2021 and 2018. So a lot of these issues span several coordinators. The one constant is that we haven't drafted well during that time span. That's why our current defensive core is Derrick Brown and HOPEFULLY Jaycee Horn. Beyond that, none of these guys are core players. Few of them will be around in 2 seasons. If Evero gets fired that will be more about Canales attempting to deflect blame and flounder than anything else.

I am curious who they think could win with these players?

Stuff like that will come eventually, although it's probably a ways off. I am not sure how much longer it will be before you see good AI driven interfaces that can truly assist in development. That doesn't feel like a next 10 years sort of thing.

I really don't think most fans appreciate how truly terrible this roster is.

Yeah, much like Gettleman had to dig out of the cap mess created by Hurney 1.0, Morgan is going to have to navigate the mess that Rhule/Fitterer left in terms of an utterly talent devoid roster. Hard to say how it will turn out, after all, Gettleman also ended up not only authoring some of the biggest free agency blunders we have ever made but his drafts really fell apart at the end and he ended up a failure. Wouldn't be surprised to see Morgan ultimately fail but a lot of these problems aren't his making....yet.

Agreed. The positive is that we have a lot of other spots he could potentially go and be as if not more successful.

The thing that has to happen is for us to start drafting well. It's very hard to complete a turnaround through almost only free agency. Also very, very expensive. If that doesn't start improving, there is really no light at the end of this tunnel.

Andrew Thomas comes to mind. He was trash for about two seasons before the light clicked.

I mean, she isn't bad looking especially considering her age. IDC if Tepper marries a super model or the fuging Elephant Man. Just stop meddling and win some fuging games.

Yeah, it doesn't matter the scheme you are running if you simply cannot get the right players.

Well they also have an elite QB.

I don't mean to say that it won't still be led by an elite QB. Those instances are relatively rare. That has only happened 5 times in the last 20 Super Bowls. Nick Foles, Eli Manning(2x), Joe Flacco and Ghost of Peyton Manning. One could argue against Flacco and Eli but IMO those were never truly elite QB's even at their best.

It's really just a question of franchise historically bad versus NFL historically bad at this point.

fug that. Let's petition to be allowed 12 like a golf handicap.

I think that will shift in the next few years. The NFL is cyclical, so I suspect offenses will start morphing back towards some smash mouth football to counter changes to defenses to stop all the pass happy, high flying offenses with a lot of smaller, faster players. Not an original thought, I have heard it echoed numerous times by multiple prognosticators over the past couple of seasons.

Well our injury problems are worse because there aren't but a few teams that can even come close to how bad our roster is. So when you pile on massive lack of talent WITH lack of availability, sadly a lot of it in the ranks of our actually talented players, it exacerbates the problem exponentially. The lack of pads today is really more about load management than anything, I am sure. I highly doubt that is a departure from our normal routine, although I could be wrong.

Gettleman believed in hog mollies for sure but he is often remembered for his massive failures in that realm than his successes. He was never truly able to put together a line as solid as this, IMO. He got close on more than one occasion but there always seemed to be some crippling hole he couldn't fill.

Interestingly, that is quite literally something neither of us could afford. They would be toting ~$100 mil in dead cap and we would be eating two seasons of $46 mil base salary. Sadly, although we are quite terrible we don't have a sound enough cap situation yet to where we can assist with salary dumping. We only have ~$42 mil in cap space for 2025 with a considerable amount of signings needing to be made to get to 53 active.

The 3-4 can be very effective and has been used for elite defenses for a long time. Has little to do with the base defense and everything to do with the derth of talent to run the scheme. Switch to a 4-3 tomorrow and we will still suck as badly as we do now.

Interestingly the overwhelming #1 guy in penalties so far is perennial Pro Bowler Laremy Tunsil with 11. Also Ikey is technically in a 7 way tie for 6th place in penalties.