kungfoodude

Well, technically the most a team would be on the hook for is $12 mil in 2025. The only guaranteed money on the deal is $8.4 mil next year. It's actually not an AWFUL contract to trade. Now, it would nuke our 2022 cap with dead money. Plus, the missing 23 of the past 33 games is not going to make many teams at all interested in taking on that deal unless the price is very low. I think what will likely happen IF he continues to not get healthy in 2022 is we jettison him for nickels in a trade after the 2022 season or just simply take the cap hit and cut him. Either way, the bulk of this board was flipping poo at the small group of us that were against the signing at the time. This is literally what we were concerned about. I can't say enough how bad of an idea it is in the modern NFL to pay top 5 money for a RB. ANY RB.

Erving is pretty awful. I don't care to ever see him suit up for us again, TBH.

In the first round? Yeah, not as high as he went. I get the "Texas Tech gimmick offense" thing. He just seemed to have more NFL tools than their average "system" QB. Would I ever have predicted him to be what he has become? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck no.

Yeah, I was definitely not a Trubisky fan. They didn't have similar grades. I literally told you my grades for them. How are you arguing my grades when you asked me for them? I don't even understand how that's a thing.

The NIL rights basically allows the universities to avoid the threat of paying athletes directly. You are about to witness the next big spending spree in college football for the next few seasons. Especially with playoff expansion and conference expansion. TV deals are about to get stupid.

At the time I wasn't a huge fan of Lamar. Other than that, all 1st round caliber guys.

Go check out his games against other P5 teams and upper end G5 teams. It's really bad.

If he starts and stinks, fire everyone the next day.

No, I am saying that none of these QB's are first round caliber. None. I can do that for every year going back and I would still say the same thing. I don't care if no quality QB's exist in a draft but they get selected in the top 15. That's desperation and it's dumb. I am not an outlier in this opinion.

The smartest of guys understand when they don't know stuff and try to learn it or ask those that do know.

There appear to be some potentially elite OT and IOL prospects in this draft. I would take any one of them available in the top 15. It makes the most sense, IMO. QB class is incredibly weak and the rest of our needs don't warrant top 15 investment, IMO.

Yeah, I just disagree because we would likely end up squandering another promising QB talent by not protecting him. Also, what you are describing is the thing I have posted on here before about. I am afraid we are in the midst of being the 1999-2017 Cleveland Browns and their comical QB carousel. I posted the side by side comparison and right now we are actually tracking to be a worse version of them during that time span. That concerns me because that isn't typically an easy nosedive to pull up from. That kind of franchise dysfunction usually takes decades to recover from.

And I agree with that viewpoint entirely. However.....these guys have no clue what a successful QB even looks like, which is super scary. Also, it's hard to justify taking a suspect QB when elite OL may be on the board. Darnold is done here as a starter. PJ is at best a backup and perhaps Cam can be another bridge QB. That's probably his ceiling. But, any of these options will be better with competent OL.

I understand that mentality but you gotta pick your spots. This isn't that year. We also have way more needs than just QB.

All these guys had the opportunity to prove themselves first round worthy and none did. They all have obvious flags or definitive ceilings. I would take a bunch of them in the 2nd or the 3rd but absolutely none of them in the first. Much less in the top 10. Statistically, at least one SHOULD be successful in the NFL but I wouldn't be the team rolling that die in the top 10.

Agreed. Gotta keep one of those two.

There are no 1st round quality QB's in this draft.

The Huddle has a better idea of what a successful QB is than our current franchise.

Taking a QB in the top 10 of an extremely weak QB class would be the most Panthers move ever. @stbugs is right. We just keep doing this poo to ourselves, year after year.

The Notre Dame TV deal used to be the envy of the football world but now it nets them less than the ACC TV deal payout does on an annual basis. I think it is inevitable they join somewhere eventually. The current climate isn't kind to independents.

Nah. They basically got their nuts snipped in recent events. College football runs itself. The NFL isn't gonna be happy about this but NFL coaching salaries are going to have to adjust accordingly. Rhule's contract isn't gonna look like poo in 3 years, I suspect.

This coaching hire/fire cycle is fuging INSANE. This is better than the actual college football season has been.

The NFL didn't mismanage the Panthers. That was self inflicted.