kungfoodude

That guy is not a Panthers fan. He is a Jets fan that came over with Darnold. He literally has only known anything about this team starting in around April of this year. Talking team history is not going to work.

That's not actually a real thing. Hopkins didn't even technically get a 1st round pick in his trade nor did Antonio Brown when he was initially shipped to the Raiders. I said a 1st and a third but I am not sure that would even get something we could get.

Agreed. Much ado about nothing. And his mush mouthed explanation of his source describing a nonsensical exchange between a player and Rhule was nothing. Similarly from the poster's description of him being a "dictator" isn't this literally how about half the coaches in the NFL are described? That isn't an isolated thing.

Jesus fuging Christ....2 hours and 17 minutes??? Can we get a fuging Cliffs Notes or at least a timestamp for that blurb??

I think you mean another long snapper.

Well, oddly we would either have a really good season or a really bad season to get that result.

I predict hindsight will not be kind to the Elflein and Erving signings. If that does come to pass, the portion of us that were unhappy at the time of the signings are going to be REALLY fuging unhappy about those decisions. But, if they flop and Darnold and the defensive players pan out, it will just be a minor bitching point.

You mean from TC or the games?

Picks is the answer for this hypothetical. I don't think we could effectively trade him for players in positions we need the most. Any cheap talent that we can build through the draft would be a huge boost. Something like a 1st and 3rd would be ideal for his current value. If he blows up this year, it will be interesting.

Remember when people bitched about Graham Gano not having enough leg, despite hitting a 63 yard GW FG for us? But we signed a guy we trot out there often to attempt such a feat and he never hit a single one.

Most of those other players for at least an offseason actually practiced with the offense or defense as a camp body. You can't even say that for a LS I understand the need to find some value in the move, but if he doesn't end up as our future long snapper, it will still be an incredibly stupid pick. The "feel good" has already been forgotten by 95% of the people that saw it. We(Panthers fans) are probably the only people that actually remember it anymore.

I will be curious to see if we even bother putting Fletcher on the practice squad. What value would he actually add to any practice? I do think we will try and stash some WR's that will get poached. We seem to be relatively deep there, so at least one WR needy team will probably give one a try, I predict.

We aren't a Division III college. We are an NFL team. A second of viral fame amongst a group of people(NFL fans) that have already known our team exists, is the most useless thing imaginable in terms of return on a pick. It didn't sell a jersey, a hat, a ticket, nothing. If he gets cut(which seems likely), he will have contributed much less than most or all of the 6th round picks we have made, simply because his position does so very little, even in practice. There is nothing dramatically impactful about whiffing on a 6th round pick. It's largely expected. It's the overwhelming level of stupidity associated with that decision that is irksome.

Yeah, hence the "so far." I think it will really depend on the OL and Darnold. If those guys flop, it will likely tank anything that the others can do. Like I said, though, we seem to be quick to learn and adjust so I am a lot more okay with these flops than a Hurney or Gettleman flop signing. We were saddled with those for years and sometimes for vast sums of money(Kalil). With these guys, it is almost a point for improvement rather than a franchise altering mistake.

Underrated comment. The upside is that we see how quickly we are able to switch gears(look at the Teddy trade). The downside is that we keep making these terrible signings. I hope that our 2022 free agent offseason is a big upgrade because 2021 has been pretty bad so far.

Classic Matt Rhule KOD.

With the benefit of hindsight, it is sometimes still unreal how fuging bad Gettleman and Hurney's draft picks were. If you want to see why we have never had back-to-back winning seasons, look no further than those two bums.

This is true. I don't want to see it and will be upset if it happens but the Huddle overreactions would soften the blow of that awful loss a little bit. How many all caps threads would there be within the first 24 hours? Definitely more than 6.

I'd probably rather actually just forfeit the game against them. At this point the risk of this curse accidentally rubbing off on us might be more harmful than losing to them. I don't even want to be in the same stadium as them.

Smith was 5-9, so probably plays more like he is 4-9.

How dare you bring negativity into this forum.

Might be one of the worst 6th round draft picks in franchise history.

You mean like the statistical facts about his NFL career? You really want me to post them again, Joey?

Agreed. He is going to have to have a top 10-12 type season for me to even think about an extension after one year. The lows were just too low in his career. I actually agree that he needs at least two years of above average play to get a chance at an extension.