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Depends on what we'd have to give up. I'd assume it has to be above what the Browns gave up for Watson in addition to fully guaranteeing his contract. If that's the case, I'd say no.

Mike Shula come on down

It's been a thing that's been said for years on this board, mostly by people who never wanted Cam Newton on our team for whatever reason, not just in Cam's last season. Most recent guy I can think of who debated this was Catsfan69, but there have been other posters who aren't memorable over the last decade make the same claims.

Jake Delhomme was 59.4% and Derek Anderson was 54.3%. I've read on these boards that both these guys and Darnold are more accurate than Cam. This doesn't compute.

So because Matt Rhule (not an offensive minded coach, as has been stated before) didn't work, let's keep shooting for .500 at best and use the same strategies that got us there previously. Hire Wilks, bring back Ron as DC, get Dom Capers and John Fox to coach the D-line and secondary. Bring back Shula as the OC and Hurney as the GM. Use pick #9 on an RB and make Josh Jacobs the highest paid RB in history and we'll be back to the glory days!

Check out the historical records of interim coaches after being hired full time, and tell me how that expecting that strategy to succeed this time is any different than expecting to win the lottery?

A playoff team this year is a giant asterisk when you consider how bad the NFC South was - it would have been an early exit the second we played a team with any semblance of a run defense. The Steelers physically dominated us with their backup QB, and we didn't even belong on the same field as the Bengals. I shudder to think of what would happen against the Niners or Eagles.

He was a con artist, plain and simple

It's the same argument you'd see on this board in the 2010 offseason on why we didn't need to take a QB, we just needed to surround Jimmy Clausen with a better offensive line and weapons and he would develop into the QB that Mel Kiper told us he would be.

I agree with your premise overall. I've seen you post this graphic a few times - what year is that current through? Seems like it might be outdated if it's saying there have been zero pro bowl QBs drafted 6-10 since Herbert, Allen, and Mahomes were all in that range, Ryan Tannehill as well.

They’ve been to two super bowls since our last one and won one while we haven’t had back to back winning seasons in almost 30 years. But they didnt have our “grit” and didn’t win a meaningless game today so I guess that’s something to hang your hat on

Edit: nevermind, forgot Freddie kitchens was promoted to OC for the browns when hue jackson was fired and Not HC. Became HC the following year and then went 6-10

My guess for Carr is the Jets or Commanders

Dan Quinn and Carson Wentz see you guys in 2024

Nathan Peterman is starting for the Bears on Sunday…so much for an upset in that game

Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady need to send him a Christmas card for how he helped both of them make the playoffs

It’s the perfect comparison. Moore was also 25 when he looked the most promising. In the last 5 games of 2009 where he was the starter he went 4-1, threw 8 TDs vs 2 picks, including a 299 yard 3 TD performance to beat a 12-4 Vikings team who were a ref screwjob away from going to the Super Bowl. The only difference is that he wasn’t drafted #3 overall and didn’t have five seasons worth of inconsistent play on tape. I hope the FO doesn’t make the mistake of extrapolating a handful of competent at best games to sticking with him for another season and make 2023 yet another rebuilding year.

Josh McDaniels

Justyn Ross likely would have been a first rounder if not for his medical issues that popped up. Higgins was the first pick of the 2nd round, but clearly should have been a first in what is a pretty loaded 2020 class of receivers.

I had a Jets fan tell me yesterday that he wished they would have just kept Darnold and let him play out his last year as a bridge QB (and of course not give him the 5th year option), then taken the trade that the Niners gave up for Lance and use some of those pieces to move back up to get Fields and let him start the year behind Darnold with Flacco in the QB room as well. Hard to argue that wouldn't have been a better result.

I love how it changed from “All Sam needs is a better offensive line” and he will be great to “All Sam needs is hall of fame receivers/TEs” and he will be great. I thought a former #3 overall pick and 18 million dollar contract would mean he’d be someone who would elevate the talent around him, rather than a guy who we have to scheme around with the same game plan we would give PJ Walker.

Also the largest blown lead in an NFC championship game (17 points against the niners) and for an international game (21 points against the lions)