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yeah, the greatest QB of all time is running the O leaves a lot of unknowns. And I am sure Brady has a ton of control.

First half Second half

All the other teams that ran only ran 50 something plays managed to put more WRs on the field.

this is the annoying BS. Where they pretend like a problem was evident beforehand. Baker and Elflien fumbled the exchange in the preseason game. When they were fumbling the exchange on Sunday it was live tweeted that they had issues in practice leading up the Browns game with it. Baker didn't get starter reps. And he often was paired up with Bozeman and not working w/ the same center. and it was so evident we talked specifically about the exchange issue and how it likely could be a problem as the season started.

or just a nice zinger/joke about a horrific call.

Phil Snow doesn’t want people to worry about winning or losing. pretty sure this is the mentality Cam Newton spoke of when he arrived in 2011 that needed to be done away with. He was right then.

maybe one is a Panther fan. Trying to end this debacle.

I am curious, I haven't got to see the game again on the NFLN..... but two refs threw the flag. They got talked out of it. Wonder if the footage shows if the Browns HC got in any of their ears? I still don't see how you don't use your timeout in that moment and make a fuss (bonus of icing the kicker)....but it potentially could of given NY or wherever time to correct the ruling on the field. Or just given Rhule a chance to get to whoever overturned w/ a simple discussion on the rule.

there were other competitions that were decided before the QB one. I'm fine with a technical one to open up camp. It's the length. When a competition becomes a fake one and then you rob someone of reps.

I was listening to Sirius XM and I think it was Bill Polian that also brought up a fact about the turn around we had in the 2nd half. He wasn't trying to oversell it but... We likely had an advantage this past week vs the Browns that showed itself in the 2nd half that we won't have working for us this weekend. One factor in the turnaround was the Browns D slowed down in part because of the Carolina weather wearing on them.

yeah, but Baker and Sam aren't unknowns. There is a ton data to make an educated decision on that doesn't take up until the 4th preseason game to figure out. That's another Rhule issue that consistently shows. He struggles figuring out pretty obvious things. Specifically, at QB but at a ton of spots. and the elite QBs are textbook example of why reps and practice does matter going into a season. Because even the elites that are largely protected don't look good going into a season without work. A middle of the pack starter in a new system with all new players is going to need every rep he can get.

I was fine letting Baker compete in Spartanburg. He did that. Rhule carried it pointlessly long. That's Matt Rhule. and when you carry a competition too long, one that clearly isn't actually a competition at some point.....everyone sees that too. The options weren't give him the job the day he signed the contract or run it all the way until the 4th preseason game.

it's little things. Like BC last year, Rhule painfully put him on the field when forced and argued against things with silly nonsense. BC comes back this offseason with Rhule not really seeing him and suddenly Rhule now says he is one of our best guys that has to be on the field. There was no real time for that narrative to change so quick. It was obvious BC should of gotten more work last year and be even further along today than he is if he had. And he looks like a promosing OL asset. Matt Rhule makes everything hard. Giving Baker the job was easy. He made it hard.

are you sweaty, sloppy and potentially a former short order cook? Because if you were....we might could talk about giving you another shot at bagging those groceries, friend.

Embarrassing Saints had 208 yards and 17 points in the 4th quarter. They averaged 12.2 yards per play. Every team could cherry pick out there stats. You wouldn't have been 3rd best in a world where everyone also cherry picks stats.

Pete Carroll is a rah rah coach. Dabo is a rah rah coach. We were sold that is what Matt Rhule is. But Matt Rhule isn't even a rah rah coach. I still don't know what he is.

He has played a ton of slot over the course of his career with Baker. He can play them all.

Shi Smith got 41 snaps so yeah, you would think in Bakers first start with guys he doesn’t have a lot of experience/chemistry with…a week 1 game plan would have intentionally worked Higgins in for a snap or two. Give him the one guy on the roster he actually knows some. And Baker clearly wasn’t comfortable out there. Pick a random team. Giants barely played more snaps than us last week. They weren’t working out of 2 personnel looks and only running the same 3 WRs all game. They had twice as many WRs on the field.

Yeah, but Baker knows him and they have chemistry. Seems like you would work him in a little in Bakers debut. Baker didn’t seem comfortable early and doesn’t have much work with anyone.

Higgins and TMJ neither got a snap. which IMO does speak to some mismanagement going on. Still don’t see how you don’t give Higgins a single rep in Baker’s first game.

Rookie seasons Jarrett averaged 10.4 yards per game TMJ averaged 10.6 yards per game

Can you call anyone a bust whose 1 season in the NFL featured Sam Darnold being your QB? I frankly have a hard time holding the 2021 season against anyone that would be dependent on Sam? Let alone a rookie WR. It was a bad spot to be in. But Baker is a legit gunslinger and they give WRs the opportunity to shine so….we should know pretty soon. Shi jumping him says a lot IMO

I fear TMJ is going to be another Jarrett. I mean, I was comically high on both when we got them.

It’s hard to greatly improve at a lot of spots in a short time. 3 years in the NFL? I think that is enough time to legitimately ramp up at several position groups. Which I don’t think we have really seen happen. I mean some might be better, yes. But I think the current pace is off/slow from what you would want to see.