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Just a reminder that how these players act in interviews may not be reflective of how they act in lockerrooms, and one does not need to be cocky or boisterous to be a leader.

I've seen a couple popular media notes about Darnold struggling vs backups. I don't get it. I get saying we can't judge him much from his play vs them, but he had a solid half...

I also found this an odd one. The way he bounced back from a rocky early start by a turnstyle OL was pretty good I thought.

Sure, but a guy like Cam can easily have a highlight video as long or longer than the INT video... That is honestly a little harder for Darnold...

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilson plays well, looks better than Darnold, and we still win. But a new coach and QB can change everything... So we will see.

This wasn't asked of me, but: 1) Significant overall improvement in decision making and general play that results in a clearly upgraded QB position to at least the level of an above average starter across the season (I would say Teddy was pretty damn average, so I'd like to see Darnold slightly above that - I don't expect next year to resolve all questions of him on this board for sure), and 2) Glimpses into true high-level potential on occasion throughout the season that gives us hope that another year in our system could result in a real step forward and a real solution at the QB position for the long-term. Ideally a player whose ceiling could be in the top 5ish. Game winning drives, 4Q comebacks, etc.

The reality is there is so much parity in the NFL, even bad teams can put together a win or two at unexpected times and so the team with the worst record may not even be the team with the overall worst roster etc... But you can often guess what fourth of the league teams will end up in, although there are always exceptions.

We ALL make mistakes, get numbers wrong, etc from time to time, but that was downright ridiculous. I knew it had to be about hospitalizations and vaccination rates... So tired of that poo.

Yup, and as @Floppin Pointed out we can't use census numbers since rates are usually reported as elligible adults.

Hahaha dude you took a small time slice of vaccination effort for one entity doing vaccinations out of many, did shitty napkin math that was wrong on multiple levels, and embarassed yourself. Do keep up.

Good point. Another reason we shouldn't extrapolate doses administered to % or rate.

Not to mention those are doses administered by BCHHS specifically it seemsI... don't know the counties vaccine distribution effort but it probably doesn't include stats when people get one or both doses elsewhere. Not to mention we don't know the percentage of those doses that were J&J...

Hahaha. This dude tells is the actual data on percentage vaccinated is wrong for the county but the doses administered isn't, but didn't notice the big text disclaimer of "NOTICE: (Wednesday, June 30 to Wednesday, July 18, 2021)" Oooooof.

So, where do you keep updated on news and current events, if not from news outlets?

So we still don't know which county LG was wrong about or why it matters that he was wrong? Oof. Maybe he wasn't wrong, maybe he got percentages wrong by a small bit... But if the counties are reporting his numbers, or within a few percents of em, he seems to be in the right... Why do I suspect this has to do with hospitalization numbers and someone arguing the vaccine doesn't work.

Not sure what you mean by no pass. I'm sure a team like the Patriots worked with Cam so that he could learn in the best way for him. If a surgeon gets through school and residency he's going to be pretty fuging competent at his job; if he did so with a significant learning difference, all the more power to him. Same for a pilot. Cam is an NFL player and former MVP. He can play the position and learn a playbook, even if it's not the same way some others do.

Where did Ninkovich say Cam learns differently? Ive been trying to find that quote and all I can find is him commenting Jones was teaching Cam the offense and making fewer errors with it. I'm not arguing if Cam had ADHD or learning difficulties of another type... My point was that's different from what Ninkovich had said. If he did say that, my mistake.

What? There must be more of the quote. I haven't seen Nikovich explain that it was anything at all like ADHD, seemed to just be him making up bullshit.

Hard to trust a process when what we've seen from the OL has been so dismal. I agree they know more than us, but man...

There's a big difference between learning differently (and/or having ADHD) and not knowing a playbook and needing to be taught it by a rookie too.

Oh definitely. Belicheck knows the rules and would never admit it was the reason anyway. I don't know if it was the only reason, but his missing time because he wasn't vaxed contributed to Jones taking over the first time offense, it seemed.

I think so. Cutting him also lends some credence to this imo, because you reduce the risk to your QB room as well. Although I can also understand a team wanting to make sure a rookie doesn't feel like he has to look over his shoulder at the former MVP behind him. I hope Cam gets vaccinated because if he does I'm pretty sure he'll be starting for someone by year's end, or at least be a backup.

Relevant to this conversation: From https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/05/hesitation-to-sign-cam-newton-comes-from-history-of-injuries-throwing-issues/ "This same source bristled loudly at former Patriots linebacker Rob Ninkovich’s recent suggestion that Newton didn’t understand the playbook, and that a rookie quarterback had to help him learn it. Newton was with the Patriots throughout 2020. They chose to re-sign him. Less than two weeks ago, Newton was described by Bill Belichick as the starter. (Offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels said the same thing, a day earlier.) The source believes that a bunch of former Patriots players (such as Ninkovich) had a hard time with Tom Brady leaving and Cam Newton replacing Brady. Also, pointing to potential red herrings like playbook issues or distractions from music being played at practice cover up the basic truth. Cam was the starter until he failed to comply with a fairly basic aspect of the rule applicable to unvaccinated players. Thus, the decision to make him not the starter flowed directly from his vaccination status and the ever-present possibility that he won’t be available to play or to practice."

I agree with this. We've heard the same shitty narrative from people outside orgs about Cam his entire career. Surprisingly the shitty narrative is the same one applied to most QBs with his skin color. Who would have thought? The idea Cam can't pick up a playbook is bullshit. To the extent that QBs help each other learn, sure. The idea that Jones walks in and teaches cam the playbook? Bullshit.

This was actually a nice read and although I think Burns will be improved in run D, I can totally get thinking that is an advantage for the Jets. Can't argue with most others at all.