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Or just draft a guy with that pick and get 4 years on a rookie contract. Nothing about this team screams close to contending. Just build with young healthy guys who have a larger windows on rookie contracts. This guy was drafted in the 2nd so I'm guessing they don't let him walk for a 5th like some are assuming. A blocking TE shouldn't be in the first 3 or 4 picks with this team and it's lopsided needs.

That's what I meant when I said would rather have that kind of player on a rookie deal. Vs a guy coming off of it is what I didn't say. Again, if the team wasn't in such need of meaningful talent then overpaying a little for an older blocking TE the coach could trust wouldn't be unusual. Giving up more than 1 pick is just dumb given the situation for us tho and there is still repairing what that last cap guy did before they can hit normal opperating IMO. Spending money like the peak Saints with so little talent was not a good combo.

Cough cough don't draft a blocking TE high. No idea about the personal reasons but this guy is a TE #2 max. I would rather have that on a rookie deal. On the flip side could he be worse than Thomas at anything?

That industry is rampant BS with some actual journalism sprinkled in. I'm tuned out and happy.

Lewis was there and wouldn't tell the cops who did it so they charged him. He didn't murder anyone.

Clowney has to be available and Wonnum shouldn't be much competition for a good rookie in the back half of the season.

What's the difference between a teir 2 TE and a teir 2 edge guy? There are less than 5 teir 1 guys in this draft. Not falling in love with a guy at the top of teir 2 is the smart move IMO. Trade back and take 2 teir 2 guys.

I would rather have a less talented guy who was available. They don't need any projects or injured guys early. They already screwed up early last year and don't need more of that.

Injured RB at 8? Just close the thread. If they do that and sit him for 25 then there should be new people in charge next year when this guy might be playable...because it's not like an injured RB that's raved about couldn't get reinjured when finally cleared...

That would be a massive failure of a draft

So many 2nd round type guys being talked about way too high in the first. I'd take a DT but still take a NT later. I don't see more than a swing at passrusher so having at least the front 3 strong would be a vast improvement.

That and how is the endurance running all around a filed. Sumo bouts don't last all that long with footwork for tossing weight using leverage. Pretty sure that would be a lot of holding calls and personal fouls lol

His size is what made him stand out for sure. He uses it well. I just don't see an AB or CJ, I see a big guy moving little college players...which look like DBs but then again at that level the LBers look small too half the time. He looks solid. I don't think the size and losing comparable speed is going to look the same as often in the NFL.

No the games are the coaches, players and situation. The film is looking at the prospect and then seeing g if those things add value to an assessment. I don't even look at their records because it usually doesn't matter. The games are more than film, they are a bunch of stuff going on and lots of it doesn't matter anymore once they are drafted.

No Bowers looks like the better athlete and player. It's not just physical, even if i did compare those aspects. I called Bowers a freak. He is a playmaker. Warren reminds me of Legette where people were gushing over him and brushing the body catches and lack of agility as issues when transitioning to the NFL. I think you have fallen into the trap that school ball is close to NFL ball where they might as well be different games.

Yes his size is impressive and he looks solid which is good. He doesn't look like a freak and the NFL has tons of freaks. I don't care about the games. I just look at the film. Being the best player at Penn state means nothing in the NFL, it's just supporting info in the draft process. If he isn't going to be playing for for CFB coaches and agaisnt CFB players it's a moot point. He is big and he should be good in the NFL but comparing him to Bowers or saying he is a better prospect is not something I can agree with from what I have seen.

I don't see it. Looks like school hype too me. He is going to have to do much better at the combine than on that film to justify that kind of grade.

It more than slightly and it shows. The only thing Watren has on Bowers is size. Bowers blows him out in hands, speed, agility and acceleration. All the school stuff really doesn't matter that much. Bowers came into the NFL and was his team's offense. Warren looks solid but he isn't near Bowers level. Don't draft guys for ehat they did in school but what they can do in the NFL. Body catches and lack of separation even at that level is a concern. Bowers was one handing it and dusting CBs. It's not close IMO.

LoL at this guy being a Bowers. Complete lazy draft time BS. Watch this and see what a TE that's worth a pick at 8. Warren looks solid but Bowers looked like a freaking stud.

I am not at all interested in even thinking about a WR or TE. Let's see how the combine goes. He would need a lot more than that film to impress me. For a guy who watches zero CFB I wasn't that impressed. Good hands but nothing screams top 10 pick with him to me. He looks solid but nothing more. That's what I want a 2nd round TE to look like, good physicals and hands but lacks meaningful separation.

The loyalty is part of the package in this sport. If not an A I would expect a B or the guy who would have got a lower grade is probably already fired this year. I would like to see that list out of curiosity and if anyone got less than a B.

Hahahaha. I don't even want Thomas back at any price

He is a CB who is good but not that good IMO. With a healthy Horn just find another one if he is looking for bigger money than he is worth. I don't even know of he wants to be here anyways.

Yup just Jackson. Also why isn't Thomas on the deffinatly walking list? Like there shouldn't be any doubt if they are going to try and retain Tremble.

What the hell is wrong with school ball now? I'm hoping for a DT or a trade back. Trade back might be for the best if they can rack up more 2nds and 3rds. There is bearly any difference between the end of the 1st and the end of the 3rd so far lol. Also the grading system is hilarious. It's the NFL projecting their views on talent but then it goes from perfect to average backup in the first 2 points and then there are 6 points of sub roster material lol.