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Yeah, I work with two people who most likely had it weeks ago. They couldn’t get tested so they will never know.

I see what you’re getting at but this would take a ton of prep time. Not all old people live by themselves and can take care of themselves. The deadly outbreaks in the Seattle retirement homes were started by employees and nurses bringing the virus in. Also, it’s worth noting that the U.K. was going to use a similar plan but realized the number of hospitalizations that would happen among the “non at risk group” would still overload their healthcare system. They went from “let the young work and get the virus” to “put the entire country in lockdown” in just a week or two. What should have happened was an earlier travel ban and a complete lockdown of those first few cities where the virus took hold. Unfortunately, that type of lockdown is unconstitutional at the moment. We might end up seeing the first constitutional amendment in a century when this is over.

Yeah, you can only get tested if you are in the hospital and testing has ruled out everything else. Mild cases don’t get reported.

One thing we have going for us is our population density is nothing like China and Europe. Most of us don’t take public transport, etc. It’s way easier for us to isolate.

Absolutely, it can be done and I think it will be done. A lot of people think this is nothing more than the flu and we don’t need to take all these precautions. To me, that is what Tom is getting at.

Like Tom, a lot of people have a terrible time assessing risk. You see this with hurricanes. There are always people who say the risk is overblown and they stay home because “very few people die in these storms”. Well yeah, because people leave. What would happen if everyone stayed and did nothing? Same with this. What would happen if nothing was done? Italy x 10 would happen. You wouldn’t tell a cancer patient that their disease is no big deal because way more people die in car accidents. No, you take the appropriate steps (drastic if required) to stop the threat.

Apparently, the panelists were not happy with his notes and feel it is not 100% accurate. https://twitter.com/thebasepoint/status/1238345777497272321

Sounds like it was worth it....

I know, but I don’t want people to read his posts and think there is something to it. People love conspiracy theories.

Italy right now. Reporting 463 total fatalities from the virus, out of 9,172 confirmed cases. 2019 flu season in Italy. 2,768,000 cases. 240 deaths.

Yes, SARS was way worse. Most people won’t die from corona virus, but we have a responsibility to protect the vulnerable. Our medical system cannot handle a modest influx of sick people all at once. That’s the real danger here. I’m going to trust my friends in the medical field and what they are telling me they are seeing over whatever YouTube channel you are watching.

No one is saying it is the Black Death, but is is serious. King County (Seattle) has 376 known cases so far with 23 deaths. Some were elderly but some were people in the 50s and 40s. The person in her 40s was a regular employee of the nursing home. She didn’t have major health issues except maybe high blood pressure or something. The point is, there are a lot of elderly people and people with health issues. If hundreds of thousands or millions of people had this already, basic math says it would be hitting the fan right now.

Ok....but by all accounts this is deadlier and has more extreme symptoms in the elderly and sick people. My friend has treated these patients. He hasn’t seen a huge uptick in patients in the ICU and he works in Seattle.

If the numbers were huge we would be seeing more deaths and over run hospitals. The numbers are most likely still low.

People are so stupid. Where is this?

I was just talking to a friend that is a nurse in Tacoma. What he’s telling me is terrifying. No hospital in that area is prepared to deal with this. His hospital (a big hospital) has 6 (yes SIX) hazmat suits for the entire building. They are handing off food trays that suspected corona virus patients are eating off from to the dietary staff with no labeling of where the tray came from. Warnings about this are falling on deaf ears. They are setting up adhoc decom rooms but they are failing all tests.