Basbear

Add in free agency too. The best player on each side were UDFAs that each of their former teams didnt care to resign. If you view eddy > johnny , then add STs as well. Panthers kept on re-signing there own bad players form 5 win teams. I think feel they need a new strength staff as well. The last few years the team plays soft and weak. Then theres been more injuries as well. Team is de-void of talent and no depth for the below average starters. Roster truly needs around 40 players and thats if young somehow turns out ok. Just the timeline of mass exodus of leadership and talent form the rivera era into the poor player player development era of rhule(which is a big reason he was hired), then limp dick frank reich not wanting to fix this mess he signed up for. You got the giant mess of a expansion level NFL team with very little cap space for the 4-5 guys that need 20 million per type contracts. There will be no texans like turn-around here.

Wilson sat out the final 5 or so games too. He was playing much better than the start, it was the opposite of howell. Just didnt run paytons plays like he wanted and they fell out of the playoff race. If not for payton, id say broncos have it worse than the panthers. Both will struggle for the next three years barring miracles.

Picks in rounds 2,3,4 are simply more than the 51st. Normally the cut off point for most 51st is around 900,000. I dont know what you are asking, sportac list both the cap and 51st cap numbers. Best I know lots guys have the 51st number.

Still blows my mind that young was the consensus #1 pick and now one year later you got all these looky loons coming out with " Told youz guyz he sucks ass!" I think about 70% of the huddle was "young is the better player" by draft day. It's still a nightmare for us cj stroud fan boys with young on the team.....

Wasnt he in the fresh prince?!?!?

Deal is more than likely the BPA will be an offensive player. Besides safety, punter, LS(age tho..), kicker. Panthers need talented starters and depth everywhere. Even if morgan starts hitting on rounds 2-7, it will still take 3 years min, to even think about .500. Thats if the other nfc south teams keep terrible HCs employed and dont find a franchise QB during those 3 years. Odds are they will hire better coaches and at least one will find that golden QB. Which pushes the panthers to 5 years before they are able to post a winning record. Sad times bros...

@Verge last season I non-stopped asked you to be joking each time you listed young to the panthers. Now you got another 5'8 dwarf heading to the panthers for their first pick this year. Why must you hurt me.......

It is top 51 if you can read the far right figure. Only the picks 2,3,4 "count" and the signing bonus of 5 and 6 count. Well the yearly bonus rate. Its 4,116,387. Add in the signing bonus of UDFAs adds a few thousand. I think the limit is for SB UDFAs is 160,000 or it maybe 225,000. Rules change yearly I dont know what the current cap for them is. Still 4mill + 22mill = Not enough for anyone else, including injuries, PS, FAs. Ive always heard smart teams want at min 10-8mill for just in-season injuries. Thats why burns team holds the cards, team needs burns to do a couple favors and burns wants a couple million extra to help the panthers. heres the link- https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cap/ 3/4 form the bottom, if youre having issues reading that pic I had.

I think sportac has the rookie cap number- 4.1 add another 2,000,000 or so for UDFAs. I think 2-5 should make this sorry-ass roster.

After the rams fumble, Burns side is holding a full house. They know the panthers valued him more than two future 1s and 2nd current. They also know the panthers current cap sits around 30. For burns to remain a panther he needs to do THEM a favor of signing a long term deal with a low cap number in the first. *Another deal is this- burns is 25 years old. Im betting his agent/team wants a 3 year or max 4 year deal so he can "cash" in another huge deal...which is rare for the NFL. I think the panthers want him to sign a 5-7 year deal with low cap numbers in the first couple. That doesnt seem to vibe with the idea of burns getting two big deals. So sad that the panthers are the worst team in the NFL with such poor cap space. Plus they are paying a rookie QB, terrible to be here. The sun does look better 100+ miillllllion better in 2025.

The issue is not the number, welll its the number but its the cap number. the team has around 30 million in space. burns @ 22mill + rookie pool 5 mill = nothing but a couple mill for in-season injuries. im sure thats the biggest issue.....i take that back burns play is the true issue....

Huddle off-season has started.....

I am Forrest Quinn! Plus I can not believe believe west virginia hands typed that title...

off-season has started!!1!1!11!!!

Jones has already said hes coming back to KC.

Hes either the best hire or 2nd, imo. As a whole I would put tilis above him, but offense-wise....goodwin maybe a bigger talent.

Pat is a great hire.

Last I heard about him his back was making him think of retiring,

Yea, this is wilks to me in simple terms- DB coach- Great DC- Awful HC- Average-below average Zona truly screwed him, but thats why soooo many coaches avoided that place for the last 20+ years. Bidwell is worse than tepper and Im sure wilks didnt draft rosen either. SF you or I could have coached that unit with success. Shame how he getting all this bad luck, but you need to make your own at some point. Facts are there are many great coaches that are great ST, DL, DB, QB, etc, but dont make good OC, DC or HC. I bet a top DB job pays a little over 1 million. Nothing wrong with being a great one of them and getting paid well.

wtf is this BS?? Love to have HC shanny here to "struggle" and "choke" in the SBs...

I care more about that OLman, he was the starting RT until week 8. Better at pass blocking than run. Got in tomlins doghouse and benched. Still young. I wonder if claimed does that bonus still hit.

Honestly if not for daves size fetish, hed picked chris jones over "big" "&" "lazy" vernon butler. Panthers could have a winning record one of those bad years. The best DT after 99 was jones for years.

There must be a high demand for him, I doubt he stays with them. Owner HATES to pay any players.