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Hopefully get get a good LT. Watson or not we are in dire need of one...

What are the chances we try to sign Moton AND a big FA like a Trent Williams? With Moton, Paradis, and Williams we could plug in a couple guards and have a good OL next year...

I was talking about the concerns of having more talent around him than his competition for similarities.

Yeah similar to Mac Jones, but with a stronger arm.

And Teddy!

Teddy and CMC to Denver for their 1st and 3rd. Ship the picks and our next 3 1sts for Watson. Denver gets Teddy with his old OC and CMC, we get Watson, and Houston gets 4 1sts and a 3rd. Plus we ditch Teddy and CMC’s salary.

All valid points. I do think we are that close though. Even without CMC, how many games would we have won this year with Watson instead of Teddy. KC and GB were both winnable. Say we lose one of the Burns, Brown, Chinn, Jackson, YGM, young talent on defense or CMC and 3 first round picks. Ok that’s a huge price, but if we traded next year’s first and our 1st and 2nd to get the Dolphins number 3 pick and select Wilson or Fields most people would be ok with it. So think of it as one additional first rounder and a young player to upgrade Fields into Watson. Seems like a no brainer to me... The big thing is like you stated the Jets or Dolphins could outbid us....

Huge market definitely...

All true. I’m surprised he would want to go there (coach aside). They have no talent on that roster and losing the capital required to get him would make it tough to field a decent team around him. You are right though. If he wants to be a Jet, and they really want to go all in on him, he will be a Jet.

Eason had one of the better arms in college. I would say you weren’t the only one high on him before he played that year.

Players also have to buy in for a franchise to be successful. Don’t see that happening if they refuse to trade him...

Yeah they should stay put. Everything is looking great for them. 4-11 with their top 5 pick belonging to another team, Watt released, and their franchise player unhappy, deep threat a free agent, and a lot of players are going to avoid them. Let’s try it again!

Well this is a Panthers forum, so yeah I’m not a Texans fan. Look the team isn’t ready to compete right now. They had what 4 wins and now lost JJ and have their QB disgruntled. Trade him and load up and they could have a very quick turnaround with some stability. I wouldn’t be against 3 1sts, CMC, and another player if I was a Houston fan. Especially knowing he doesn’t want to be there....

I’m only ok with this if we have Lance or Fields behind him developing.

We have a top 10 pick which makes only the Jets out of the main 3 better. Throw in the fact we are willing to part with CMC and a defensive player, IMO the Jets can’t come close. Not even mentioning the No Trade Claus (the Jets shouldn’t be on any player’s list of preferred destinations). The Niners would have to part with Bosa (which I don’t see happening) to come close. My biggest concern was the Dolphins with their 4 first rounders and Tua, since they appear to be backing out I think we might have the next best package with draft picks and players.

No I get it. He is arguably the 2nd most valuable player in the league. There is only so much we can offer and still be competitive. I just don’t see the Jets, Niners, or Bears offering anything better. Dolphins were a worry (extra first rounder and higher than ours plus Tua etc....), but it seems like they are staying out with Tua.

I disagree. If your leader of the team doesn’t want to be there, it can’t bode well for the team’s morale. I can see him sitting out a few games to the whole year (yeah it’s that bad, especially after they let Watt go). Say they trade with us and get 3 firsts, Teddy, CMC, and a player on defense. They can draft a Trey Lance at 8 and let him sit behind Teddy until he is ready. (CMC and Lance can be a great future/foundation for your offense) You immediately get a band aid and potential at the QB position, plus one if the greatest playmakers in the league, plus a good starter on defense, oh and you still have two first round picks for the next two years. You can trade up and get your guy if Lance isn’t it and if he is you can build a great young core for the next two years. Holding Watson hostage hurts the team and makes Houston and even less desirable destination for free agents. Trade the man, collect your bounty of players and draft picks and start helping out the community with some much needed PR. I mean Texas definitely needs help right now...

Because they would also get 3 1st round picks, a bridge QB, and possibly the best RB in the game? YGM has potential, Jackson is a solid young CB, Shaq would instantly be one of their better players on defense.

Yeah, stupid team trying to beat other teams!

3 1sts and CMC plus players who have high contracts. For example 3 1sts, CMC (some people think his is high for a RB), Shaq, and Teddy. Shaq is a solid starter, Teddy is their bridge QB, and CMC keeps people in the stands (when allowed). We dump a ton of salary in CMC, Shaq, and Teddy which allows us to build a team around Watson. Extend Moton, sign a Trent Williams or Samuel and a solid LB. We would still have our 2nd and 3rds to draft potential starters. We basically need to clean up or cap if we are taking Watson’s contract and losing those 1st round picks.

That’s probably where he belongs, but someone will overdraft him because of his position.

Yeah that’s it. Can’t completely ruin a franchise for a decade. Nothing more than three years out. Thanks for the clarity!

I don’t think teams are allowed to trade 4 first round picks. 3 is the max.

I mean he is the closest thing to Watson in the draft. Great arm, athletic, competed at the highest level. He just hasn’t been as consistent or clutch as Watson is and was in college. That Clemson game showed a glimpse of what Fields can be, but so did Indiana...