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I think most teams aren’t playing starters week one. It’s mainly to see who looks good in real action to see who makes them team/depth chart. I wouldn’t really look too much into it.

Get it tight, get it right.

Let’s get our center back and find out which lineup works best pretty quickly. Repetition is going to be key to build trust and cohesiveness throughout our offensive line. I’m not saying we will be top of the league, but should be average with a great OT in Moton, decent C in Paradis, and enough competition for both OGs to have a solid player there. From what I read Moton at LT and Christensen at RT looked the best for the tackles. Moton, Daley/Elf, Paradis, Miller, and Christensen seems to make some sense. Christensen should get better as the season goes and Erving can be our overpriced backup at any position really. If Christensen struggles, Scott can step in and be serviceable.

Darnold needs to get ready to roll out behind Moton, whichever side he is at.

He fell to a nice place with his skill set. McDaniels can have him looking like a Drew Brees Lite with dinks and dunks all over the field.

Yep it’s year two because, I means it’s his second year here… Last draft was spent on revamping the defense to get younger and fit Snow’s scheme. But honestly this team got stripped of talent and had cap issues when Rhule took over. Playoffs in year two would be pretty insane considering all the circumstances. If we are competitive and improve throughout the season while sniffing .500 I’ll be happy.

This thread is about Christensen! Why are you talking about quarterbacks????

I agree 100%. I think they feel Darnold can be a franchise QB and very well could feel the same about Fields and Jones. The only point I was making was acquiring Darnold went into the equation of not drafting a QB early. Had they not had Darnold there is a good chance we draft one.

Im not talking about the decisions as much as what gets out to us fans. If they messed up in the process they certainly don’t want us to know. The same goes for every organization out there. But yeah you are right. They should always do what’s best for the organization not just what makes them look good. They seem to be following that well too. Drafting a young QB would get fans more excited then trying to revive one, but I think they are doing what they think is best.

Need was met with Darnold. As simple as that. They even said Darnold allows them to draft BPA. Still needing an important position like the QB will make teams reach. Was Wilson really the second best player in the draft or did the Jets really need a QB?

Missing the point. They aren’t going to disclose much to make them look wrong in projections or the process in general. I don’t think anything is viewed as franchise altering so far. For example when they drafted Marshall and Christensen (thread title shout out) they were eager to tell everyone “yeah we knew he would be there with our third but Marshall wouldn’t so we got two high values picks” there is no telling how many times they tried that and failed with other players. We more than likely won’t hear about it aside from a random source hear and there. They are not going to disclose info that makes them look bad.

They will say whatever they need in order to save face/justify their decisions. I always get a good chuckle when people say “no one from the organization has said that!” I’m like yeah they aren’t going to say anything to make them look bad. Imagine Rhule “yeah that didn’t go the way we thought at all. We would have done things differently if we knew this.”

I would be very surprised if we didn’t take a chance on Fields or Jones without Darnold. Mills or Mond are not guaranteed to be there next pick. That’s a risky gamble after pretty much kicking Teddy off the team. Maybe Teddy stays if we don’t acquire Darnold? Either way, it seemed Tepper was wanting a new QB.

From what I gather they were worried about drafting a rookie QB in the first because of the low success rate (which is higher than reclamation projects but you know…). I feel that found it less risky to trade the future 2nd and 4th on a young QB which potential that use a 1st on one. I mean our GM did say acquiring Darnold allows them to take the BPA, which (to me) implies they were looking at drafting for a need (which obviously was QB) before acquiring him. We more than likely think Horn is a better/more complete CB prospect than Fields (or even Darnold) is for a QB. That doesn’t mean we wouldn’t have still over drafted or reached for a QB to help address a need. Teams are desperate to have a guy at that QB spot. I mean he’ll look at what the Niners gave up for a D2 QB with potential…

Not saying it happened, but we would never know if it did. Why were they wanting to trade for a QB instead of drafting one? Would that have changed if we had a top 3 pick? There is no way to tell…

Ok it’s going to be damn near impossible to tell what’s smokescreens and what isn’t. We aren’t even saying this happened to Carolina. Simply addressing a need before the draft can change your board ranking on prospects. It’s hard to argue against trading for Darnold made us much less desperate to draft a QB. As LG stated QB triumphs all (as to why the best prospect went 4 behind 3 QBs). Had we went into the draft with Teddy we very well could have drafted Fields/Jones or a signal caller. The original question why would you pass on a guy at 8 you would have wanted at 3 has a possible answer of the need being address during the offseason (in a trade) in fear of that player not making it to 8. Watson was used as an extreme case to show it’s obviously possible.

I know many Ohio St fans and none of them are disappointed with Fields. He lost to Alabama with a banged up roster and Clemson the year before while outplaying Lawrence. I really don’t know what more he could have done. Win the heisman? I don’t believe Lawrence has even done that… I understand some people think he won’t translate to the NFL, but he had a solid college career.

Bingo. Darnold was a guarantee and relatively cheap from a draft capital point of view. If he was evaluated anywhere close to a Fields or Jones I would think acquiring him for certain while keeping your 1st round picks was the right call. If they waited the guy they want may not have been there at 8…

Unless Darnold turns out to be solid.

Hopefully Darnold plays well and it won’t matter. However if you can’t evaluate QBs you won’t have a very long career as a head coach…

Agree completely. AU was just showing an example of a team passing on a player they previously had ranked higher than he fell. He brought up needs being met in the offseason. I was just backing him up because it was getting dismissed but made sense to me.

If Darnold busts they clearly overvalued him. Overvaluing a player at a position as important as the QB will lead to a lot of “dumb” decisions at least in appearance to us fans…

You are talking about drafting another RB to install our double trouble run heavy offense. Both players got plenty of touches. It doesn’t really work that way with QBs and some other positions. You can double down on WRs too in the right offense. Most teams don’t ignore glaring needs to have these luxury picks. I kept hearing that TE Pitts was the best player in the draft, yet he went 4 because the top 3 teams had more pressing needs. So if the Jags acquired Watson in the offseason with no legal issues they still take Lawrence? We obviously value Darnold very highly and feel he addresses our need at the position. If we didn’t acquire him we could have drafted a QB. Had we had the 3rd overall pick maybe we would have waited on the draft and not traded for him. So you don’t think off-season additions (especially via trade) don’t change a team’s draft board? That seems ridiculous…

Yeah Stewart was definitely young and in his prime when we got CMC…… talk about a stupid point. Beason lasted how long after Luke? Take Fields out of the picture for some reason that’s a weird issue for you. If a need is addressed in the offseason by a trade because of doubt that position would be there at your pick it absolutely changes your plans for the draft. If we traded for Orlando Brown because of doubt Sewell would be there at 8 and he fell to 8, I doubt we would have drafted him and had a young Brown, Moton, and Sewell with a ton of other needs. Had we had the 3rd pick maybe we don’t trade for Brown. You made a statement about why wouldn’t you draft someone at 8 you thought about at 3 and AU answered it. Draft positioning effects how you address needs in the offseason which in return changes your needs in the draft. Needs effect how teams draft. No one is even saying this is how it happened for us. It’s just an example of how quickly player ranking in drafts can change before and after free agency and how free agency is done in relation to draft picks. It’s all connected.