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Shades of Smitty breaking his arm in 09, or TD hit by Harper in 15.

The 6 million dollar man right there.

Panthers kickers wearing #4 and kicking it off out of bounds... For the record I love me some Kasay. Just a little gallows humor.

The live in Detroit and play in GB and Chicago, among others. They'll be fine.

Been half a decade of this 'quality fell off' crap with the team and several years with Tepper to boot, and nostalgia eating at a restaurant doesn't cost hundreds of dollars, if not a commitment of thousands, and several hours a weekend for 4 months. You're agreeing with me even if you don't realize it.

Not at all the same since the whole premise is around spending time and money on poor product 'just because' and it costs nothing to follow along as you note, but I'll play along anyway - how else would one know if said restaurant actually made improvements and was worth trying again?

I said this in another thread but many were up in arms about the Charles Johnson contract years ago. He was a more.complete player, with pass-rushing abilities a step or two below Burns but wayyyy better run defense.

Would you keep going back to a restaurant with crappy food solely because it's 'local'? No? Same premise.

No one has said Burns is below replacement level or mediocre, insinuating that he's a run of the mill player - these comments are ridiculous. What has been said is that what he does and doesn't bring to the table is worth risking for a haul of draft picks that can yield even more overall talent alongside avoidance of a massive salary that could provide for even more talent, particularly since the Rams are likely to be mediocre or worse in coming years. The hyperbole and nonsensical judgments are silly.

Exactly, and while Burns is good he's not an irreplaceable game-changer. The last time this discussion came up at the DE position, I daresay plenty of people were angry about the Charles Johnson contract, and while he wasn't the supreme athlete Burns is he was a more complete player who could dominate against the run as well as rush the passer. Burns has yet to match Johnson's 11.5 sacks in 2010 on a defense that didn't play with many leads...

They were 3-6 with Stafford and Kupp before their respective injuries, Stafford may be getting dragged down by father time, their OL sucks, and they hand out draft picks like Halloween candy. Nothing is assured of course but odds look good that they won't immediately ascend back to the top tier of the league, if that.

Who has said Brown is better than Burns?

Discussing Burns' glaring weaknesses and feeling they shouldn't pat astronomical sums because of them is not 'hating', and Brown was (deservedly) criticized very heavily in the past before improving big time this year. Unlike Burns, however, no one offered two 1st rounders for Brown only to have the team decline. Quality play + no trade controversy = less discussion. Reasonable. 'Hate' and 'hating' are very mis/overused terms and just cliche at this point.

Tee Higgins plays for the Bengals.

Doesn't seem like a stretch to assume that dropping 9 figures and getting nothing but a headache and PR mess is not ideal.

So if you remove the parts where defenses have likely already sucked, the defenses sucks less. Alrighty.

I have no expectation of the team winning it all but at this point, why not take the weak NFCS title by force and keep building that new NFL-level attitude?

What are you talking about?

Among other things a Lathon jersey from 96, Sam Mills jersey from 97, a couple of Kerry Collins rookie jerseys, and a #95 jersey that just says 'Panthers' on the nameplate that I assume may have been produced before they had a set roster.

So refreshing after years of Rhule's blathering on.

I mean, not really. Maybe Carolina falls into a playoff spot by way of the atrocious NFC South but it's a given they'll get killed by actual competent teams. I guess that's a positive/meaningful to some folks. I'm not a tanker. Just putting it out there.

Since then the Broncos have scored 2 Wilson to Jeudy TDs and it's 27-14 at the half.

Yeah, and it's not like Carolina has had many big moments to effect these past years. I can see it both ways. We were spoiled by having a decade of Julius Peppers.

Burns gets some stats but I don't feel like he's a game-changer. I'm admittedly not glued to the TV this year though so perhaps that has changed this year. I understand keeping him but given his limitations in the run game I would have leaned towards taking the Rams offer.

My son and I did a franchise on 22 and started another one on 23. Seems more or less that same to me, but the in-game player movent has been tweaked and feels a little better IMO.