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I'm not telling anyone not to be excited and totally understand that Young could deliver us out of QB purgatory. It's just over the top with the annointing and playoff planning (and other similar takes) in early June... dude is a rookie that will play like every other rookie at times and there are still large, notable question marks across the roster. It's a very reasonable opinion to have and, while I agree that legit trolls are obnoxious, it's silly to be mad at folks who bring a more reserved, non-trolling viewpoint.

About 'scouting' Reich, the specific topic of this thread? Yes, that's a single soundbyte. And come on, man... it's OTAs/camp. It's fine to be happy he's here but it's glorified walkthrough. Dude has literally zero actual NFL action yet and some folks are talking like he's already showing All-Pro on field. It's just way out of proportion to the reality. Positive, sure, but next to nothing in actual football scale.

Sporting KC, formerly the Wizards, and the Chiefs coexisted for over a decade in Arrowhead stadium, a harsher climate than in NC, while also hosting concerts and doing things like monster truck rallies. Point being that it can definitely be done.

Y'all sunshiners are quite sensitive. No one even said anything negative, just that this is a lot of conclusion-jumping based on a single soundbyte.

Matt Rhule, clown that he is, got Nebraska to move back to grass on at least their practice/outdoor fields (not clear if in the stadium as well) after having FieldTurf since 1999 and other artificials in the stadium even before that. To whatever degree of influence he has up there, he does have a somewhat unique perspective on it since BoA moved from grass to turf during his time here.

As a general comment, I'd be very surprised if there were many (I'm sure there are a handful we can all guess) potential #1 picks that hadn't looked into the teams that were likely to draft them. No way to prove that one way or another of course but it sure makes for a nice soundbyte.

I returned a kickoff in HS too.

Anyone attempting to compare Burns to Peppers is either delusional or never actually saw Julius play in his early years. There were many times Peppers was very clearly the best football player on a given field and he simply imposed his will on an opponent with no actual resistance. Tackling Plummer at the 1 and then the 99 yd interception return on the next play as one example... Stats or no stats, Burns is nowhere near that level right now - no 'hate', he just isn't. Also, Pep played his early years when the I/Pro formations were still offensive staples and power football was en vogue. Burns would be eaten alive in that setting but a young Pep would still fit right in in today's NFL and perhaps be even more dominant.

Yup, looking that way. It could certainly work, but appears to be a less conventional approach for today's NFL.

You and a couple of others mentioning Hardy... I honestly forgot all about him. Dude was definitely ont he Rucker/Johnson type path but turned out to be a bad individual that ruined his own career. I'd put Addison a tier below those guys but agree that he did turn into a pretty effective all-around player. Burns would benefit from making a couple more timely impact plays and his run defense needs some signficant work, but it would also help if Carolina got a solid run defender on the other side of him.

No he's not, at least not totally. He's the second most athletic and maybe someday that translates to a complete package on the field, but not at this point. CJ and Rucker are both above him based on consistency, ability in both the run and pass game, and longevity.

Yes, I've stated I don't think his on-field impact is worth what he will get and yes, that opinion implicitly accounts for the forces driving said potential price. You don't seem to have a point here.

The notion that 'professionals' are always and/or automatically right is laughable. And no one is saying Burns is a bum - that is clearly not the case. Dude's a quality player. His game is just arguably not worth top dollar.

No, it's not - every situation is different and I'm talking only about Burns/the Panthers, a team that would benefit greatly from salary cap room and extra picks by not overpaying for one-dimensional, occasionally impactful, at-their-ceiling players as they reload for this year and beyond. Here's a hot take for you - Charles Johnson as not the athlete that Burns is, but he was absolutely a more complete player and I had no issue with his contract though many did. Dude earned his money by contributing in every situation. Turn off the Madden. This real life, bro.

Being the 'most talented' doesn't always mean much, and 3 high-round drafts picks with an extra $20-30MM a year in cap space sure helps sure helps the building process.

Get out of here with that reasonable take, you Hater™

Fans should be excited - it's a lot of change, Rhule is gone (hallelujah), and change can (and ideally should) be exciting. It's the 'anything less than the playoffs this year is a failure' stuff that is just irrational and unrealistic nonsense. Are people really going to be calling for Reich and the staff's heads if we go 8-9 this year and miss the playoffs? That's just dumb, and folks with that attitude are the ones begging for disappointment. I've already addressed the other things in my earlier posts.

Yup, nothing says 'JAG' like a 17-yr NFL career.

Absolutely. Cheese wrecks the taste and texture of a burger and many other foods.

I say yes, but a very specific one worthy of its own consideration. Kind of like how a square is by definition a rectangle but no one thinks of it that way.

How would a sauce ever not be wet?

And success includes more than just wins/losses, particularly with a rookie QB and as much change as Carolina is facing. Year 2 is where wins/loss jump should become a primary metric for a total shift like this. There's no point in continuing to go with you and others in a circle. The reality is that thinking anything less than the playoffs for this year's largely-overhauled, top-to-bottom melting pot of team is objective failure just is not a fair and reasonable position to hold.

Take a look at the list of rookie QBs with the most wins. Note how few had 9 or more, and then further drill that down that by how many also had new staffs to contend with, THEN also consider play style. Spoiler: there are almost no rookies in the 2000s that achieved 9 wins or more as a starter with new coaches as well. It's certainly possible that this team is an outlier but man are some of your opinions and expectations so very unrealistic. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-wins-by-a-rookie-qb-in-there-first-season

Y'all are hilarious. The complaint posts when an upward-trending 6-8 win season doesn't meet "the expectation" that, for a laundry list of reasons, was pretty unreasonable in the first place will be amusing.