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Biggest thing I took from this is just how awful that jets offense looks, good god

No it doesn’t. Feel free to go back 20 years and looks at all the super bowl contenders. Nothing on our team ranks as such.

If Fields or Jones balls out all 31 teams who did not draft them or trade up for them mortgaged their futures picking a player who is not valued as highly as a franchise QB because the opportunity was there. Hell all the teams that didn’t pick Rodgers or Jackson at the bottom of the first or Wilson in the third mortgaged their futures too because they missed the opportunity. All these mortgages of the future happening! Yea. No. Not what it means. Darnold, if failed, is simply a wasted pick. And the opportunity will be there again because we didn’t mortgage that opportunity by trading them away, except round 2 next year. And that opportunity doesn’t have to be a top 8 pick and may not even be a rookie. Something like the 49ers and Lance or hell even the Rams move qualifies for mortgaging the future.

Lol they didn’t mortgage the future what a dumb idea you can’t mortgage a risk and unknown like fields and Jones who you don’t know will work out and/or where you’ll be drafting - that’s not what a ‘future’ and mortgage means it means set in store, something inherently given to you, that benefits you, was given up like draft picks or possibly player trades included with this idea everyone in the top half of the draft ‘mortgaged their futures’ if their pick doesn’t work out lol really dumb way to put it

I mean Hurney was worried he’d be drafted in the first round even wanted to take him with a top 10 pick. If that doesn’t say bust im not sure what does

Competition is always good. For cheap and short terms deal, not sure anyone would have an issue with that. That said I could live without it. I truly believe the oline is the only thing holding the team back given Darnold plays at least a notch above Teddy. And if the oline doesn’t get better history shows playoffs are a no go no matter what the rest of the team does.

Draft grades are meaningless but I’m not sure where you got that...most people have a B with a few As and some Cs and worse, we’d probably average B- for 10+ sites not just CBS. If you’re talking about the huddle, if you’ve been here a while you’ll notice we always seem to have an A or A+ draft. It’s the homerism. It’s the reason we have shitty knee jerk threads when we find ourselves losing yet again. It happens every single year. It’s pretty comical to see the huddle around the draft time every single year with so much optimism despite it blowing up in their face some year, it never fails. I’d agree with the ranks and wouldn’t say just how great it was if everyone flops. You really can’t say how great it was until years later. The only thing you can say was great is the fact they have more piles of poo to throw at the wall instead of our regular 6/7. And that is good.

My favorite pick (and I only liked 2) I believe average is his floor. BYU oline program is top notch. But they also aren’t playing too competition. Double edged sword, harder to envision what the ceiling is, but you can bet it hasn’t been reached yet like some players out of top schools.

Dunno. I think it’s quite possible they would’ve taken Lance and that could’ve been the reason for no 5th year option. Or maybe traded if someone wanted Lance - we will probably never know. SF have up a ton to get him, and their FO is pretty good, so clearly he was a better prospect than most of us thought. But I think the only team ‘tied’ to Jones was possibly SF, not sure what they’re smoking. Clearly that was some smokescreen BS.

Christenson is likely Mormon coming from BYU and not the ‘fundamental’ kind in a lot of ways calling a modern day Mormon a polygamist is like calling a Muslim a terrorist but I get it, it’s a ‘joke’

Don’t like they have Pitts. That dude is no joke going to give us issues. Even with Horn, don’t think anyone will stop him and Jones. But as said their defense still sucks balls, and no one goes to playoffs or wins games that matter without a defense.

Ah yea the draft super bowl thread, we are undefeated, had one for Hurney 2.0 and Gettle too. We really don’t know and won’t know what Fitt is all about for a couple years. The fancy trades and moves don’t impress me. Building a team and a healthy cap does. So we shall see. I like the BYU pick personally. They have a fantastic oline program.

We are quickly becoming the Carolina ‘when healthy’ Panthers

Not sure you comprehend what that means or what is going on. Trading down is suppose to mean an increase in value, either this year or next, not equal value while at the same time failing to draft better talent. Basically trading down should always benefit the team trading down. The only benefit here is quantity, not value, which is fuging stupid. As said, trading a quarter for a dime and a nickel is dumb. This only works if we have superior scouting for talent...which I guess we don’t know but seems like ego to me when your GM is off doing poo no one else does or really ever has, kind of like the Hurney trade ups.

Would have been nice to be able to trade down and take one of the 3 OTs taken shortly after us. I have to believe the FO like at LEAST one of them. But perhaps they couldn’t find a trading partner. The fact tackle is so hard to find, like a QB, means you need to draft more of them to find your guy, not less. Seems they get that with QB but not tackle. At least spend reasonable draft picks on more than two (Little, Moton) in what? 18 years? Guess there is Otah so that’s 3 in 18 years. Couple free agents like Oher and Okung.... Thats not a lot of activity since Gross was drafted. Hope they resign Moton and I’ll feel a bit better but just mine, if they don’t then Paradis leaves I mean that’s 5 positions to fill...it’s going to be comical at that point.

Yea...I have yet to see any ‘grade’ above average for Horn...like 8+ sites.

I think it will sell plenty of beers when the third QB in a row including cam gets demolished behind Swiss cheese oline. With how inept this team is building the oline they need more than one pick at this point. I’m not sure why when cam left no one seems to think oline is as much of a problem anymore.

Yea I don’t see my steals in the second lol...the talent is gone. FO ignoring the oline yet again. It’s weird how last year’s oline ranked below cams entire careers line rank average and yet was easily people’s #2 complaint (out of like 6) only next to shula for the failure of that era yet the complain seemed to have completely disappeared for some reason not saying there was an olineman to take that high at 8 but it appears the Panthers will yet again ignore this huge issue

I hate the pick but Smith is the only player I wanted more. A trade down would’ve been nice. Would’ve rather paid BB instead of Shaq and traded down, that would’ve been in an ideal world but it is what it is.

Uh since last year when we paid Shaq instead of BB? Or maybe Norman before that? ?

You shouldn’t be, huddle may be dumb about a lot of things but draft night is pretty on point...like Little, Brow, Clausen.... Luke is the only single one I can remember being wrong on This pick is fuging hardcore stupid, there’s no way around it

how fuging stupid, could’ve just paid BB instead of shaq, now we get to watch the third CB in a row play at a high level then walk after spending a top pick on him after an all defense draft prior sorry this is just dumb

It was a mistake and they’re not perfect. It’s not the mistake so much as the recover. They learned quick this was a no go and moved on as fast as humanly possible, that’s important to remember. No way in the deep depths of hell would JR ever of moved on so quick and risk losing a single cent, dragging it on and on for dear life at the expense of the team and fans. We’ve seen it plenty players and coaches. The mistake (start) sucked but I disagree, the change of pace (finish) is very nice.

Congrats, more whining about a post whining about whining.

lord some of you babies whine too damn much, whine because they got rid of washed up cam, whine for signing TB for two years, whine TB sucked, whine about not getting Watson for 3 firsts and 2 seconds, whine it’s taking Tepper longer than one off-season to find a franchise qb and then whine some more because a first and a second pick may be spent on two different prospects with potential to be next franchise qb like damn tep burns down beach houses because of people like you