PNW_PantherMan

That's crazy to think we need help at WR. Beyond DJ, they extended Robbie Anderson and drafted Terrace Marshall and Shi Smith just last year. I had pretty high hopes for Marshall and Smith this year. But Marshall didn't do anything, and Shi Smith was barely on the field. What duds will we draft or sign this year?

I really believed Matt Rhule was a good hire in year 1, but this was basically me watching the team this year during the Giants game.

I'll admit I was part of that and I was dead wrong. At that time, I thought Matt Rhule knew what he was doing, and Teddy was a scrub. It turns out, Teddy knew what he was talking about and Matt Rhule is the scrub.

In a vacuum, yes I do agree. You wanna burn any pick you already have on a QB that's 2 years on the bench from being elite? Go for it. That's obviously going to be worth it every time, even if the pick is 1st overall. The cost of simply drafting a guy with a pick you already have is relatively cheap. The rookie pay scale has really made it that way. If you look at any other position, taking a guy in the 1st round that isn't ready to play is madness. But I suppose QB today is probably the exception to that. It just wasn't that long ago teams were letting more raw QB prospects fall to the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds. So maybe that's just my age showing. I think for this 49ers team, it doesn't seem like it was a good decision. The 49ers to me are similar to the Rams before getting Stafford. They have a very strong roster, but their QB isn't good enough to win the big one. But that roster isn't going to be around for very long. To me, that's not a prescription to go sell the farm for a guy that's 2 years away. Now they're not going to have those picks to potentially replace players they can't afford to keep over the next 2 years. I'm just pointing out the crazy bet that the 49ers made on this guy. There's plenty of guys that have shown elite potential as prospects and never fulfilled that in the NFL. In hindsight, any winning bet was worth it. I'm just not convinced they thought it would be 2 years when they drafted him.

That's a pretty big if. Jimmy G isn't good enough to get the 49ers over the hump, but they're looking at starting him again next season. They're also in the middle of a window here with player contracts. That's not a good sign. If Lance becomes an elite QB after sitting for several years, then that's great for Lance and the 49ers. It seems like a very steep price to pay to make a very low percentage bet. You can become a millionaire very quickly by abusing leverage in the stock market. That doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.

It is though. The Kerr situation is much more similar to when Steve Smith and Ken Lucas got in a fight. But whatever. Keep living in your own reality where you make up the rules and the points don't matter or whatever.

That's different though. Steve Kerr was a role player and that was always going to be MJ's team. This was a power struggle between the old king and the new one. Somebody had to go.

Imagine trading multiple future 1st round picks to take a guy 3rd overall and bench him for 2 years. That's just lunacy. You don't draft a guy in the top 5 if he's not ready to play for another 2 seasons. If he was that raw, he should have been a 3rd or 4th round pick.

Agreed. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise. We are essentially the NFC Texans.

I'd rather take 2 or 3 shots at drafting a QB than trade those picks for Watson.

I'm noticing a pattern with scapegoating people heading through the exit door. But bad decisions are still being made all the time. What could be the constant here?

Inept? They've been in the hunt since McVay was hired as head coach. They went all in on that team because they were on the cusp. That doesn't mean every trash heap team should go all in on a Matt Stafford level QB.

And where did the league say that?

The fact that he had Sam so highly rated is a red flag. Sam's college tape is trash.

Great example is Michael Thomas. I remember people here dumping on him because anyone could put up those numbers getting targeted that much, etc. Now we have DJ Moore essentially doing a less impressive version of the same thing, and he's "amazing". What plays come to mind for you guys with DJ Moore? I can't think of a single one besides a 1 yard hitch route on the sideline, where he's hit immediately. Sure he has the big plays here and there between the 20s. But, he doesn't get open on 3rd down, and he doesn't get open in the red zone. He disappears for literally quarters at a time in a game. None of these traits are #1 receiver traits. A real #1 receiver will show flashes of that even on a trash team. DJ is just a good WR that should be #2 or 3 on a stacked team.

I think fans overrate DJ Moore. I don’t think he would put up better numbers anywhere else. I don’t know what you guys are seeing on the field. The 1000 yard seasons are good but the guy never makes a difference in any game.

Fitterer didn’t have much to do with that team. He’s been more involved in the slow collapse since.

Man this whole situation jumped the shark a long time ago.

If the board falls off that hard after pick 5, we aren't going to be able to trade down very well. Just pick the best guy IMO.

I remember being disappointed we didn't get him.

Well it is going to be the magical 3rd year under Rhule's Jay-Z 7 year overnight success plan. I think that means we make it to the Sugar Bowl and get blown out. And then Rhule leaves for a higher paying job.

Agreed. Ian Thomas is a textbook definition of replacement level.

We can go lower.

"A win-win deal" Win win? For him and his agent maybe.

Not gonna lie, I'm starting to think of this clip when it comes to Fitterer's responsibilities. "Well I bring the paper from Matt Rhule's office to Samir's" "Couldn't Matt Rhule just tell Samir himself who to sign?"