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XL is 3 or 4 years older than Moss was when he was drafted.

They were a drop away from winning today against a top 5 team in the NFL soo...

It's not based on box score, I will tell you that.

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Tmac and xl is a terrible combo. If we had taken Ladd at the draft last year like some of us wanted, then sure. Tmac and XL would give us the least shifty, least burst wr tandem in the league.

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I tend to agree unfortunately when the issue is body catching.

They were breaking the huddle with 18-20 seconds left in the play clock. That's enough time.

Who called that one a drop? You may have got confused because they were talking about the handful of actual drops he had. Xl body catches and is weak at the point of attack so it makes sense that he got laid out in that situation. Go get it and grab it instead of letting it get to your gut first and you don't get laid out nearly as bad.

I get being hesitant, or not declaring anything, but to bash him based on game stats shows a lack of football knowledge. Especially when you compare it to qb stats pretty much league wide this season.

So many people stat sheet watching instead of game watching.

Watch the tape. Stop crying about stats. Watch any of the tape over the past few weeks. His numbers are fine, the tape is great for the most part. It's ok to say you didn't like him. After week 2 I wanted to cut him and never wanted Darnold to go out. Since the benching, if you watch the tape he's doing the absolute most with what he's got. Give him an actual #1 wr and his numbers would be great too.

I don't want to overpay Higgins, he's a #2 at best too but I definitely agree with the first half. We drafted an old wr based on his size when that's all pointless because he doesn't play physical at point of attack and body catches. I said it as soon as we drafted him. Hopefully he figures it out.

limited route tree and a big wr drafted because of his size that body catches.

I'm aware of how you feel about him and how you are going to interpret any metric.

It is a very bad stat. Guys that don't get separation in college are often very bad in the nfl.

Cause we never value quickness or route running. Only size and 40 time

If a soft zone can't stop it then that's about all of Evero's solutions.

We've got to keep adding talent to the roster. Overall we are still near the bottom of the NFL in overall talent and when you have less talent then your margin for error is very small, so it comes off as finding a way to lose.

I don't know where this narrative comes from. Jake had a very strong arm before the Tommy John injury at the end. I remember back in the day they had pro bowl skill competitions and one of them was deep throws and he won it.

I will say, I'm not a Bryce hater. I have seen definite improvement in his play the past few weeks. Hopefully he builds on it and becomes an elite qb. In the back of my mind though there is a little voice that says, maybe this is mostly Canales and if he can do this with a player as limited physically as Bryce, what could he do with a young qb who doesn't have as many limitations. That said, it is probably actually a combination of everything and you've got to give credit to Bryce for coming back from the benching looking the best he ever has.

It was players that said it, to be fair.

He's fast once he gets rolling. We need someone shifty that can get up to speed quick on all routes.

We've got to get some fast skill players.

The biggest difference I've seen is it seems like things are starting to slow down for him a little bit and that's making him more comfortable. He's not as scared to take some shots and trusting his instincts. I hope he continues to improve. The biggest hurdle for me to believe will always be the arm strength and lack of zip, but if he finds a way to overcome that consistently then great.