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With less draft picks and what is looking like will be fairly limited cap space after Burns and Brown get paid the Panthers can't afford to let Jaycee walk. They'll just have to roll the dice on the hope he will all the sudden become at least somewhat dependable.

I get not giving the Saints the satisfaction of playing in their all black uniforms. But we generally are awful in ours so meh. Just give me a game worth watching idgaf what the color scheme is.

Derrick Brown was a Hurney pick. Our defense is quite literally being held down from being a steaming pile of poo because of him and Burns. Jaycee Horn would be a fantastic foundational piece if he could stay healthy. Other than that players like Luvu and Chinn are quality starting role players. When you get into Fitterer’s acquisitions it's not any better. We still have WR's that struggle heavily to gain any consistent level of separation. He also loves Ian Thomas. The man has been very overrated here.

Theoretically it should be easier to replace the WR. But I don't have much confidence in our GM in replacing either. Both players we're talking about were Hurney picks and all of us agree he was poo. But if that's the bar what are we doing with Scott and where's his cornerstone pick that stands out? Jaycee Horn? Even Derrick Brown was here before Scott stepped into those shoes. Honestly I'll probably feel better if we promote Morgan or just look elsewhere.

Some of the things being said and the memes about him are fuged up. But if he is responding to random people it's not a good look. Robbie Anderson kinda vibes. At the end of the day he will be paid very nicely for a top ten pick even if he doesn't see a second contract. He could do much worse compared to the average working person.

At this point it's giving Dwayne Jarrett vibes. He's still got a little time to change all this. But not much more. I have a hard time foreseeing a miracle 180 moment that changes his career.

Why do I have to keep explaining this over and over? Laviska whom Fitterer traded for has an injury history that's why he was available Chark has a significant injury history that's why he was available and Theilen is 33 obviously we knew he ran the risk of getting nicked up. That's three big risks right there surrounding your rookie QB. That's all Fitterer's decision. Idk what it is with folks that want to make excuses for him but we didn't do this with Hurney or even Gettleman later in his time here. When you make risky signings you take the heat that's the job. If people don't like reading about it don't visit fan discussions.

Obviously the injury isn't his fault but the Tepper's for the most part have been a poo sandwich truth is truth.

I saw the title and laughed. Can we unban Juan?

These Fitterer drafts are looking oof

Yeah the Fields hate circles back to this. We still took a guy who might not even see a second contract from us.

When people hear Teddy Bridgewater they envision tossing a weak pass at or behind the line of scrimmage when the team is down one or two possessions and the offense needs chunk plays. Bryce Young has played one regular season game. Safe to say it's very premature to even be mentioning Teddy right now.

Young can sling it. Elite arm strength is not there yet he's only 22. Off the charts physical ability isn't the end all be all anyway we saw that with Darnold. My issue is the same problems plagued us that have for the last few seasons. Our receivers are still struggling to gain separation and the ones who can are banged up and missing time. This is on our GM. He took enormous risks with this receiving core and traded away a hell of a lot for a young rookie QB.

The vocal Stroud haters who had their chest out back in preseason are noticeably very quiet this week.

Can't be top 10 from the sideline my guy.

You could use this to support the notion but the Howell/Corral debate boiled down to Fitterer reaching with Tepper in his ear wanting a splash move IMO. If it were flatly a Rhule decision he sure as poo didn't show it in how he handled Corral's development and throwing the kid to the wolves. He never wanted to develop a rookie QB regardless of where they were from. But there's a world of a difference between throwing darts at local kids like Howell in the mid rounds and doing so in the top ten.

I remember the RAS shenanigans. I still think if Horn played for a school outside the Carolinas then Surtain would be a Panther rn. Just my gut feeling.

I remember your past iteration of that username you've got there and getting ridiculed off the board from time to time. If you're going to throw stones don't do it from a glass house.

Folks who believed this also thought Scott Fitterer was once the smartest guy in the room with his "in on every deal" persona wheeling and dealing his way into yet another 5-6 win season. Meanwhile it's still all Matt Rhule's fault to some peolple.

Win or lose fug the swamp rats.

See the above post.

You don't have to like it but it's the truth. The Panthers have been trying to draft local kids with feel good stories for over 2 and a half decades. 7 winning seasons. If you're telling me you don't think we ultimately took him over Surtain bc of his local ties as the cherry on top there's nothing for us to discuss. Move along. Thanks.

Remember all the feel good fluff from the team after we drafted him about Horn staying in the Carolinas? The Panthers need to get back to simply drafting the best football players and leave the feels at the door.

The defense was damn good in the first half and Burns and Brown were the leading contributors to that. If your only way to poo on them is the second half well that's how football goes. It's still a team sport and eventually the defense goes as the offense goes and when guys see the offense farting around and giving field position and free points to the other team the wheels will fall off no matter if you have multiple hall of famers on defense. You have to reward their effort. It's on the coaching staff to clean this up. And pay your talent already get the Burns deal done asap.

I'm just defeated with the whole situation. The circumstances of his career trajectory as a human being and also the fact our decision makers to this point are looking to be a tier below Marty Hurney at drafting football players.