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That's a name recognition hire. He should be singing the praises of his pops at all times.

Honestly I am past the point of hearing complaints about the pieces around him. We have one of the four most expensive OL's in the entire league. We've drafted back to back first round WR's including one 8th overall for the first time in 30 years. It is not completely ideal or perfect. But nothing is or ever will be here. Just go out there and do the damn thing and whatever happens is what happens. If he struggles we draft another QB and let them duke it out in camp next year.

Well that's unfortunate. Puts a damper on the hype train for him for sure. He is a UDFA at the end of the day. We'll just have to see where he goes from here.

Define play the game. Is that sacking ones self and throwing awful picks? Or? Because you know we can hire anyone off the street for that just saying.

The Raiders win was nice and it was all downhill from there. But I mean objectively speaking. Even Kyle Allen had more impressive wins than that. And that isn't saying much either.

Comparing some tool making racist jokes to the mere existence of criticism of a pro athlete making 40 million dollars is the most absurdly outrageous thing I've ever seen here. That is not from a sane mind.

Stevie Wonder could see Dalton is done. Doesn't make either of the other two or Hooker much or really at all better. Just a matter of going with the younger option that still has room for some semblance of growth.

The hubris when discussing backup QB's here is both interesting and amusing. I guess that's the state of our franchise now eh? But if I could only choose between 3 choices to be the Panthers QB2 (Allen Heinicke or Dalton). Andy Dalton would be the last option every single time.

The last look we got of the first team offense was anything but pretty. They need to hit the ground running in Jacksonville.

He has to get healthy and stay healthy for there to be potential. If I'm being honest even when he finishes rehab and begins gradually getting onto the field again we're all going to be holding our collective breath. If we're thinking it then it also has to have some level of effect on Brooks himself too. It's a tough situation for an athlete. Dowdle could be one and done or he could stick around. It all depends on what transpires. He was a one thousand yard back last year so I would not write him off as already out the door just yet.

I agree our WR's did not get a fair shake in developing anything in preseason. But that opens the door for why Morgan and Canales set that scenario up in the first place.

Plummer was worse than atrocious. I'm speaking to the state of the QB room as a whole. Andy was playing horribly then got hurt. Bryce did not have a positive outing in his final in game action. Bryce Perkins is a PS quarterback at best. And Hendon Hooker folks in Detroit were just fine seeing him go.

Yeah eventually people like that abusing it for their own revenge are just going to get neg rep removed altogether again like before. People who have been around long enough remember it. Unlike some of these new fans who want to try and dictate to others so much

If we're just keeping it 100 even with Bryce our hope for the upcoming season with him largely originates from practice reps where he was wearing a red jersey.

The issue is in that timespan we should know what we have in our 4th round pick Trevor Etienne and if he is looking the part and then some would you prioritize Brooks over him who is making considerably less? There will be multiple factors to consider. But the biggest will be has Dave Canales become a successful head coach? That's the gamechanger for all of it.

All this franchise has done under the Tepper's is give people millions for nothing.

False. He went out of his way to publicly praise the current rookie QB for the Vikings going as far as saying he could become the face of the league. This was back in early June. Something was brewing for awhile.

Realistically what is your expectation? Do you envision him coming back next year and suddenly running roughshod over defenses in 2026 and 2027 and then getting a big new contract? Of course it is theoretically possible. I wouldn't bet anything of value on it though. Being out of football your first two years in a new league at a different level is not something that can just be dismissed. There are very few rare football players who would go on to establish a really good to great career following such circumstances. I'd love to see Brooks become one of them. But those odds are not in his favor.

In theory I agree with you. But in practical terms it's not realistic. And the team got something for him rather than nothing at all. Don't hold your breath on getting anything from a league office that enthusiastically allowed our only MVP in franchise history to be headhunted multiple times on national television.

If you want to take a glass half full perspective that's certainly your prerogative. But by the literal definition of the term waste as of right now that is what the pick was.

Thielen took a paycut to leave. He wanted out.

Kind of strange we've heard not a peep from the team about it until this transaction. So we made it through camp and preseason just to have him get hurt in practice roughly a week from the season opener. Then you factor in our left tackle getting his appendix removed. This is like a tradition for us at this point. What are ya gonna do. We won't be seeing Coker for at least a month. Let's hope Renfrow is up to the task. This is like swapping one injured guy for a guy who's already been hobbled. Not exactly a solution.

The man took a paycut to get up out of here but it's beyond the pale for anyone to suggest he wanted to ride off into the sunset with a different QB room.

Just for clarification purposes in 2024 we were 18th in rushing ypg and in 2023 we were 20th. We're not exactly lighting the league up regardless. My understanding is Canales wants to further solidify the run game this upcoming season which is a valid path. But we've still gotta get the passing output up. And realistically with our defense still very much in the rebuilding stages it's fair to ask how often we will be in a position from a clock standpoint where we can just keep running the ball at will.