frankw

If only it were this easy. Here's to hoping.

That's why they made the trade now. Plenty of time to mull it over. But I will trust Reich's judgment. Also Josh McCown will have a thing or two to say about all this.

Maybe we could stop comparing any of these rookie QB's to current or future hall of famers to fit our agendas. So far I'm seeing many more people doing this for Bryce than I am Stroud though.

If Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray are your only comps that can convince you he's your guy you might be in trouble.

That's the thing you're trying to make me out to just be a Bryce hater when I'm not. I think Stroud is more accurate and he has a better arm. But Young has plenty intangibles to like and he is solid in the mental aspects. There really aren't too many knocks on him in the most important areas. And the same can be said for Stroud but you aren’t giving him the benefit of the doubt because you only have eyes for Bryce. Getting back to size. Manziel was a fug head of the worst kind but he also was never going to replicate the things he did in college in the NFL and he was not going to play for 10-15 years regardless. You just don't want to face these realities for Bryce.

You can't just say "aside from size" and move on like it's totally inconsequential. The guy is size of Johnny Manziel. It's a huge difference in how we approach building the offense around him because he is going to touch the ball more than anyone else. If you want Young then we have to go even heavier on addressing our oline. We've seen how he looks on a stacked Bama team going against mediocre programs. Any time a defensive linemen gets near him I will hold my breath.

I could see DJ being newly motivated and going on a revenge tour. I could see it going the other way too. But if he has a career resurgence it will be fun to see those down on him flip flop.

This must have you in a tough spot. Tepper signed off on shipping off Moore but you wouldn't want to be seen being critical of your favorite billionaire owner. What to do what to do.

OP is fully on the Bryce Young wagon. This "just asking questions" bit about Stroud is easy to see through. If you are not willing to make this same kind of thread to discuss Young's cons then just say you want Young over him and stop the charade.

Stroud.

But Leaky Faucet said we really wanted Carr

Winning a title isn't the end all be all though. There are pros and cons for each QB. You go with the traits that you think will directly translate and can be coached up to even greater heights with this staff. Looking at the physical aspect it's a tough sell to expect Bryce to last 10-15 years with his frame. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that.

Tepper spent a lot of money to assemble this coaching staff let them identify the right one. Whichever QB Reich thinks will lead this franchise back to winning should be the pick and I'll accept that.

Negative posts for Stroud and praise posts for Bryce. Bama Stans are making this place unbearable.

I'm ready for April. Already sick of the Bryce Young fap fest.

I mean I like Shaq but how ridiculous it would be to trade a 25 year old WR and overpay a soon to be 29 year old linebacker.

Oh boy.

Eh don't start this tomfoolery.

I feel your frustration. The video 89 put up made me feel a little better. I'm wait and see mode. They gotta do big things with the playmakers now.

That's what I'm wondering. What we save would have to be offset at some amount by the dead cap though right? He was only in the first year of that deal.

Eh we weren't going to change the players they wanted to win. But I will chuckle at the holier than thou fans who attacked anyone that said those meaningless wins were so important. We won some games with Sam Darnold. It cost us DJ Moore. Never again. Get him and PJ Walker tf out of the Carolinas.

Draft. Alright so I'm cooling down a little bit looking at the overall compensation and getting a feel for what the front office is going with. Clearly they didn't want to have both Moore's contract and Burns looming deal on the books while they try to build around the #1 pick QB. I can see the reasoning. But man we better be coming out of this draft with minimum one stud WR and one of the best TE's or it's going to feel underwhelming even with the top pick.