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You're applying the literal definition of fight whereas I am referring to a brotherhood mentality where players will stand up for one another. I was not talking about a practice or scrimmage scrum. In the past Carolina has been indifferent on some in game scenarios where other teams players may feel slighted. Does that mean actual fighting? No. It just means guys who have bought into a group think and are willing to look out for one another and be vocal about it. There is a fine line between being passionate and foolish though. Hopefully the Panthers can limit penalties all around.

Ah this old ruse. Yeah it's obvious nobody has a post here worth your time since you practically setup a cot in the back to shout at anyone who waltzes through with a different viewpoint. Have a good day.

This could make a difference or it could make no difference none of us can know. Do I think it is the end of the world or our season is doomed? Of course not. But on the surface for a team that hasn't been near the top of the division in several years it does give me vibes of the just happy to be here mentality that has held us back. This is a team with one of the youngest rosters in the league and despite our hope and support a young unproven college coach. I hope the fellas ball tf out in September. We'll see.

See one post in and the namecalling is activated. It isn't even noon lol. Yet you jump all over others for what you perceive to be emotional posts and takes. Be the change you seek if you're genuine. If not keep acting like some wannabe high school jock tough guy

It's good this group has some fight in them. That should help the locker room gel. But you still need some leadership so cooler heads prevail and guys don't get tossed from games or suspended. It doesn't take much for a little scrap to escalate and flags start flying and personal fouls handed out.

You've been wailing nonstop at anyone with an opposing view since yesterday afternoon. Maybe a break is good.

Talk about throwing Walker and Grier to the wolves.

You are being snippy about it but nobody forced you into this thread you quoted someone about Fields and initiated an interaction. Fans of different football teams discuss other players their team passed over in the draft all the time Panthers fans included this isn't some new phenomenon. You are going to have to put your big boy pants on and accept not everyone here is going to be a drone and repeating the same take.

Fields isn't a fourth year pro. As of now most are less concerned about Sam and more about the line in front of him.

He got no favors from the universe in going to Chicago. He and Zach Wilson face quite the uphill battle but that's the downside to going in the top 10 as a qb you know you're going to a crummy situation. Ask Burrow.

Very insightful thank you.

There isn't a great deal of information to speak of this year to form a full picture but he has had some nice throws and found some consistency after a few turnovers when camp first began. The question is can the protection allow him to develop and find his groove.

Paradis has had a major injury already in his career and is having back issues now and he will be 32 this fall. Ryan Kalil called it quits for Carolina at 33. Odds are next year we will be exploring options at center.

His overall record speaks for itself but that was the best season in franchise history and nobody can take that away from any of them. I'm not holding onto bad feelings for any of those players or mgmt from back then it's not worth it. I'm in the now and expecting success from our new braintrust We need a new team culture and that begins with winning.

If Carolina can't elevate the oline to at least average we could be looking at another 3rd or 4th place finish in the division. This is a very young team and in search of their identity. Back in May we were tied with the Vikings for the second youngest roster in the league. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/05/15/panthers-nfl-second-youngest-roster-after-draft/

That 2015 team had veteran leadership present and the Panthers had also been competitive within the division winning the south three years running. It's a long road ahead to be anywhere near that coming off back to back 5 win seasons and a 2-10 divisional record

With the lack of intensity the lack of any real leaders stepping up and coach going out of his way to publicly call out specific position groups while omitting others I'm not loving the team vibe rn heading into preseason. Need cohesion. Today is a new day though hopefully this was motivation.

Panthers fans still hating on #1 is just sad. I do think Jones could surprise some people though. But in truth I hope that franchise suffers for awhile those fans deserve a poo sandwich.

Ten years of the same song will do that.

Well that's the point of the discussion bc most people here don't want to see Sam turned into a human pretzel by November.

So basically the previous Seattle Seahawks approach which has led to discontent from their own franchise quarterback. Great!

I get the frustration but at what point does some level of resentment seep in if we keep throwing our receivers under the bus? If the offense isn't looking good as a whole then pull them together if one part is failing the whole unit is failing let Sam be the glue and the leader and elevate the group. This is a young roster in need of leadership.

Welp that's why you don't start buying too much hype in early August. Hopefully the shock of getting lit up by the great Sam Ehlinger will light a fire under our young defense