Mage

I've never believed at any point Scott Fitterer will stay in 2024. I think the Panthers will either let the HC pick the GM or the GM pick the HC.

Exactly. Panthers look so much better if they would have just relaxed and let things happen as they happen. Hell, Frank Reich would have been a good enough HC for us if we kept Darnold, McCaffrey, and Moore, and then used our 1st round pick in 2023 to help on the OL or elsewhere.

I'd do what should have been done from the get go. Full-on tank for 2024. I wouldn't make any major signings. Yeah, fill out your team, but don't sign anyone to a long-term deal. Don't waste money on a stopgap QB. Trade Burns for picks. Seriously, we just need to stand back. Don't do anything drastic. Hire your HC and tell him we aren't going to spend until 2025. Then that offseason you can really start making big moves. This is what should have been done when we moved on from Cam Newton. We should have just rolled with Kyle Allen and let him lead us to a top pick. Let's not make the same mistake twice. Accept your fate and just wait it out until 2025.

The NFL is in such a terrible state right now. So many back-up and bad QBs starting right nwo.

We traded away DJ Moore and Christian McCaffrey LMFAO

Please stay healthy Jaycee Horn.

Bryce trash

NFC South is a clown show

I WAS WRONG THIS TEAM IS 50X WORSE THAN THE 2010 PANTHERS

Lord this team is bad

Trash. We are doomed.

So close to the end of the season

Panthers vs Bucs on MNF is easily the best, most memorable game from that season. Especially if you remember how we lost the first meeting that year. The game against the Saints to close the season was awesome too. Brees was chasing the record and Steve Smith was cooking vs the Giants on SNF was great too. Top two seeds. We lost the game but it was still a fun watch. Williams scored 3 or 4 TDs IIRC.

I feel like people are ignoring the fact that the Panthers are the 2nd-least thrown team against in the league. Of course he isn't going to have high volume numbers when he rarely has an opportunity to play against an offense that has to throw the ball. It is the same reason why the Panthers defense ranks 4th in pass yards allowed, even though we all know the pass defense isn't good.

My take is that he probably isn't going to work out for us. But that is beside the point. I still feel like people should be allowed to have an opinion in support of Bryce without being called an apologist, just like I wouldn't call you a hater for not having faith in Bryce. I'm all for a discourse about Bryce the player, but too often around here I see people getting criticized for their support of Bryce. I still think Bryce could become a decent-level QB with the right team built around him, but I very much doubt that is going to happen in Carolina for the next 2-3 years. By that point we'll be moving on. And I'm cool with being wrong on a player. We've all been wrong before. I'm not really concerned about his size or arm strength. It is his accuracy that is the most problematic for me. His accuracy looks worse than it did at Alabama. Some of that has to do with his footwork. And it is just so hard in the NFL to overcome lackluster accuracy when you aren't an insane athlete like a Cam or a Josh Allen, etc.

This is exactly my point. Anyone who supports Bryce is just labeled an "apologist." Would you find it okay if I called anyone who doesn't support Bryce a "hater"? How is it any different?

I don't have a problem with the criticism of Bryce. My biggest problem on this forum is that it feels like you aren't even allowed to have a positive thought about Bryce and anything you say as it relates to the rest of the team gets twisted as you making an excuse for Bryce.

Why? Let him guide us to a No. 1 Overall Pick in 2024. There is no point in benching him for Andy Dalton. Bryce will either get better or he will continue to doom us.

WRs are so bad

What does that have to do with benching him right now? If Bryce is as bad as you all say he is, then why not just let him guide us to a No. 1 pick for 2025? Because we aren't improving at the position any other way. At this point you ride with Bryce and you either let him soar or you let him crash. If he is as bad as this next year then we will have a shot at the No. 1 pick. Benching him makes 0 sense. It isn't like Dalton is some young promising upside QB.

People keep saying "put in Dalton" like he's about to do something lol And even if he would, who cares? Benching the rookie is stupid at this point.

Panthers O is just a disaster

Holy crap, I am so out of tune with the Panthers. I thought the game was in Charlotte. I was like how the hell is it raining so hard

I live maybe 3-5 minutes away from the stadium and it isn't even raining here

GO FOR IT!!