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Nah, but you see, the Panthers traded DJ Moore so that they could trade back down with the Texans.

I also doubt the Panthers would be okay with the Bears playing them like that. They would probably just settle on negotiating with the Cardinals at #3.

But then they definitely don't get DJ Moore, which was probably the difference maker.

What? Just because you aren't as fast as Lamar Jackson doesn't mean you aren't fast enough to outrun a good amount of defenders. And it isn't like Bryce's game was dependent on outrunning anyway. He makes people miss with his ability to cut on a dime, which absolutely translates to Sunday.

Bryce Young is going to be a great Panther.

I mentioned it in another thread, but I wonder if he will be the benefit of more RTP calls than others because of his small stature.

Yeah, that could be an issue. But sometimes you have to take the bad with the good. Not every QB will be perfect, you just hope they maximize their strengths rather than their weaknesses. Reminds me of Russ. People crapped on the Seahawks OL, but Russ was responsible for a LOT of those sacks. But Russ' improvisation is also what made him so damn good for so long too. So kind of a double-edged sword, ya know? But I do agree with you. He will need to be smarter about what plays he chooses to extend or not.

Nah, I have full faith in him. There's something special about him. You don't make it this far as a 5'10 sub 200lb QB if you don't have special traits.

Great game for anyone to watch if they want to see Young overcome adversity and take some hard hits. Also Young's ability to reset his feet after escaping the pocket and throw a dime is special. He can throw off-platform so well if he has too. Look at 6:45. Jukes the hell out of someone, still keeps eyes downfield, gets feet set and throws a strike. Not many college QBs are doing that.

Bryce Young is going to be a Panthers legend.

Did you not read my post? Mac Jones and Tua played with far better Alabama receivers than Bryce did. If Bryce had Ruggs, Waddle, Smith, and Jeudy, I bet you he matches or eclipses Tua's numbers.

WELCOME TO CAROLINA BRYCE

Tua's Bama teams were at another level when it comes to offensive talent compared to Bryce. Tua in 2018/2019 had Damien Harris, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris, Ruggs, Waddle, DeVonta, and Jeudy. Bryce played with some great guys too but not nearly as stacked as what Tua or even Mac Jones had. Personally Bryce's playmaking ability gives him a big advantage over Tua for me as a prospect.

Welcome to Carolina Short King, Bryce Young. Buying his jersey Day 1.

With less than 2 weeks to go, the decision-makers haven't discussed who they are learning towards for No. 1 overall pick. You really believe that?

I will walk Uptown Charlotte and post a picture in just my boxers if the Panthers trade down from #1. It makes no sense whatsoever. And the idea the Texans wouldn't have have anyone connected enough to know by draft day whether the Panthers intend on drafting Young or not isn't believable in the slightest. Which makes it hard for me to buy into the idea the Panthers are playing a long-game of trying to fool the Texans. Nobody knows how the first/second round will play out better than the literal NFL teams do.

I don't think some of you realize how connected teams are. Remember when the Saints leapfrogged us for a player they knew we were going to pick up? Every NFL team is littered with guys who hear these things. If Young isn't the Panthers target, then the Texans would be aware of this at the very least, by draft day. And so they would have no reason to engage in trade talks with the Panthers because they know they will get their guy at #2... unless you think the Panthers would take Young out of spite, which is a foolish way to run a team. Again, like someone said... if the Texans wanted #1 that bad, they were in the absolute best spot of any team in the NFL to do so. But they didn't. Bears could have gotten picks from them and then traded #2 for more picks/players. Panthers are not playing some special ops mission trying to fool the Texans into trading up to #1. Panthers are picking No. 1 overall, which is why they traded DJ Moore.

The Panthers are not trading the #1 pick. I would bet my last dollar on it. Doesn't make a lick of sense and I don't know why people keep trying to push it as a possibility. Has any credible source said that the Texans have even talked to the Panthers about trading up? Has any credible source said the Panthers have any interest in trading the #1 pick? Why would the Panthers trade away DJ Moore, to trade down to #2? What could the Texans reasonably and realistically give us that would offset giving away DJ Moore? The Panthers weren't willing to part with another 1st, hence why they gave up Moore instead, so it would have to be 2 1sts. And the Texans aren't giving up 2 1sts to move up one spot. Can we please stop pushing this theory that the Panthers are trying to trick the Texans into trading up to #1?

I would be shocked. It wouldn't make any sense at all. It is like people forget we included DJ Moore in the trade. Our best player on offense by far. You don't do that if you don't plan at sticking at #1.

I respectfully disagree. Why don't you think his escapability will translate? It isn't as if there aren't several QBs now who excel at extending plays inside and outside of the pocket. He's very, very quick/twitchy and while everyone is pointing out the downsides of being smaller in stature, a big upside is that he will be harder for defenders to get a hold on and legally make contact with. Even if he has a bad rookie year, I expect him to be one of the best at escaping pressure.

The draft is in less than 2 weeks. I'm sure the front office and coaches are still going through their final evaluations, but I am fairly certain they have a good sense of who they plan on picking #1. Obviously the team won't come out and say that - it would be a disservice to the other QBs they have coming in on visits/interviews. But I don't think this is as much of a mystery as people are making it out to be.

What a dumb tweet. Bryce Young has been the consensus #1 QB for most of the last year.

What exactly benefit would there be for Schefter?

There is no way the Texans would give us enough to make up for DJ Moore, just to move up one spot.

I can’t believe the idea the Panthers will trade down is still being floated. You don’t trade for #1 to not make a pick there. Especially when to acquire #1, you had to trade your best offensive player. There is just no chance the Panthers are trading down.