Bear Hands

Nothing against the OP because there's some nice intent and perspective to the post (I suppose)

Patriots are apparently aggressively WR hunting... That is a situation I could totally see happening. They've got (2) 4ths, (2) 6ths and (2) 7ths next year

Totally. I'm less comparing them as players and using him as a reference point. I legitimately think Bryce is capable of being a better NFL QB than Kyler has been. Kyler has no clutch gene and doesn't seem to have a grip on the locker room, or much love for the game. Much different body types/strengths and weaknesses. Crazy to think-- but Kyler is at year 7 as a 1.01...38-48-1 on his career, 0-1 in the playoffs. He's somehow played well enough to keep it going but crazy to think he's barely even touched the playoffs. Hasn't done anything that special for the Cards. That's what you don't want to be stuck in. Cardinals are in softball purgatory with him.

Yep, pretty much this. The velocity gets lost when his mechanics slip into those habits. His shotgun "skip-hop" started fading a bit by year's end. This year, it was a high percent again to start, but last game, he was much more fundamentally in check. He played like that for so long, it's second nature that he's trying to shake out. I personally think he can be better than, let's say Kyler (BY being more clutch, less arm strength & tighter frame) if he can just understand what he needs to do to give himself that leverage in the pocket more.

Strongly disagree with the premise here. Without getting too into it, the biggest gripe for many has always been his footwork and pocket presence. Shallow drops, happy feet, bad awareness - his overall technique is highly unconventional and not beneficial to his size/frame. His upper body gets mad out of sync with his lower, drops back parallel to the LOS, erratic behavior. When you take that to the NFL level, you get swallowed up. And he got shellshocked and started bailing way too soon on plays. Unnecessary throwaways when he should step UP into the pocket and hit. He got away with it in school because sooo much of his work was out of structure or quick hits to Jamo. He was able to not bail early and stick in the pocket this last game. He also was dropping deeper than he usually does to create sight lanes. He can’t really outrun DLs so he needs to create that space via drop to survey properly. When he does these bs skip hops in the gun, he barely drops and is flooded. He needs to stay active with his feet but learn to step into the pocket more. His average arm when he’s not doing this right turns Pennington esque.

I legit contemplated having an "I'm a sassy apathetic fan doing my thang" choice

Danny Jones vs. Bryce Young is the SB no one knew they needed.

I will say, regardless of the fan typologies, having all the fandom, swimming in the misery for this long will make the next SB level squad feel more special than any prior. The mud in the NFL dungeon has hardened like a shell on this franchise. Maybe we'll see a break out and give everyone a different playing field to babble in.

I sorta get it, but I'm keeping this as is. 3rd option is where you sound to be. It can be opened. Don't see enough disparity between the two/would only muddy the poll.

That third is basically a closed but openable situation. 4th, full on closed and locked

I'd love to see it. Have always been a fan; too bad we didn't have our house in order to insert him into a good situation. With a non Rhule hire, could've had Baker, CMC, Moore at minimum in this place and never had the wheels fall off needing to restart and go trade bezerk.

Figured this would be interesting. It's well into year 3 -- Let's see who falls where

Baker?

The question I wonder involves putting the cost behind us. At this point he's here, so does the premium paid even matter anymore? It set expectations no doubt, and they weren't met. He's been bench-worthy bad, but he's come back and looked first average, above-average to maybe great, and then downright bad again. Now we're back on a good trend again. Absolute rollercoaster. So what level of performance deems him a viable option to hold? He's looked absolutely incapable of moving an offense at times, and others like a guy you can "Purdy" with some dimes sprinkled in. So, if he continues on this 2 game trend and shows consistent average to above-average play, we're treading into tricky territory. Such a big investment but he tops out as a top-15/20 QB option. It's Alex Smith KC type vibes. Are we going to be sitting at 7-10 come end of season and feel kind of meh? It's right at that fringe of what is worth it. If he doesn't re-sh*t the bed, we may be best suited to go BPA next draft and see the 2026 progression. And that will be the final make/break year. What I can see if he doesn't fall apart and things look manageable: He may end up being the average precursor to finding the great talent that you can build the team around. How Alex Smith was in KC. They built that with him (not around him) until they eventually got Mahomes. Heck, think back to Trent Green/Warner. So, BY can manage, we may get some success, but if a stud comes along, we bail and roll with the new gun.

Yeah was a bit hyperbolic. Just find it funny yet again, we're talking about who is genuine and virtuous in their opinions on Bryce.

I’m conflicted on locking vs seeing how this continues to spiral… could be entertaining

Here's your old days. Same stuff. Criticizing how Zod manages, how everyone here is a pre-teen. We're all Peter Panned. Locked in a self-cycling bubble.

A GWD is a defined stat. And yeah, any comeback is a team effort...not all GWD's are default due to the QB. Sometimes they don't do a ton, but that is a fault baked into all GWD stats, not just Bryce's. So when the sample size is small, just like anything, it can be deceiving. Then it's more on the eye-test and top down analysis. So I get the perspective/premise to an extent... although I haven't seen that many overly touting this stat. Looks like there's another thread but haven't read it yet. It is still a week-to-week situation. Next step is stringing this type of play together. He played great against the Boys, for whatever you think of their defense. You still have to show up against the bad ones. Now it's time to keep it going and not turn into what we've become used to the past 3 years.

Bets are likely there or PIT

His run blocking is making up for his negatives in pass blocking right now. He’ll still have pass blocking hiccups, but if they think he’s a critical part to the locker room and team construction, you probably re-sign him and try not to overpay.

Callahan is gone McDaniel and Taylor are happening Stefanski is a growing possibility. I mean, they need to get an offense going eventually. Could see Morris as a surprise one.

Not saying they are an even comp, just comparable typologies.

FWIW, I think it shows that this was a really solid team performance. A lot in green/fringe green. If someone had sub 10-snaps, the grade can be misleading but overall, just a nice day. The entire team looked like they wanted to kick Dallas in the teeth. Especially in our run game.

Thank you - I knew I was forgetting someone. Our rookies are putting in some work. McMillan, Scourton, Princely, Horn, Evans, Fitz, Trevor, Tremaine all had substantial playing time. Ransom still with just like 7 snaps. Hope that starts to change, he ticked back down in playing time this week.

He does indeed sassy pants