LoneSpaceDrone

Don't worry guys, we're 1-0

Fire Frank and promose Evero to HC!

The screens and runs up the middle are fuging maddening

Remember when Reich said he was just keeping playcalling "vanilla" in the preseason?

Ya'll need to keep it a

Damn, I got smokescreened, well played Tepper

Unfortunately, in the press conference after, Tepper said just this.

Yikes ... Tepper cringing when he mentioned Matt Rhule, you can tell he definitely regrets that decision.

What I was referring to was the results of his S2 score leading to the conclusion that his processing is poor, so he'd be the outlier in that he'd have to break the mold that there are no successful NFL starters that have scored low on the S2. Stroud did have impressive numbers for sure and I don't think its a stretch to say that he is the most accurate passer in the draft, though some people may argue that he was in a very QB friendly system where he didn't have to make many tough decisions, his receiving core were some of the best in college, and his struggles under pressure. I do like Stroud and in the past, I think Stroud would have been the clear favorite, but with the direction the league is going in, I think the traits that Young possesses will lead him to more success and that's what I want for the Carolina Panthers.

It really does make no sense ... but I've seen multiple people now trying to compare draft picks to political parties or other extreme groups. It goes to show that we've been getting hammered into our subconscious that we must pick a side and the other side is the hated enemy. Come on people, its a football game and we're all on the same team!

This is just sad. Teams were always going to determine the place these quarterbacks were going but for the media to hype up this man and then tear him down all within the span of a couple weeks was just plain wrong.

I think I'll put my stock into what Panther legends Luke, Steve, and now Cam have to say about Bryce than random Huddle user 91278.

And there's been plenty of people with vast football knowledge that DO put stock into the test, more so than its deniers. You can't just choose the side you agree with as the one telling the truth. Also saying that CJ Stroud might be a dud isn't a false statement, its simply a prediction based on his processing ability. Whether that will be proven true or not in the future remains to be seen. As much as Young is an outlier due to his size, CJ will be just as much an outlier due to his processing. I really do wish CJ luck, but I think he's going to need a very good team around him to excel at the NFL level.

If anyone were interested in observing the Dunning-Kruger effect, a certain vocal minority on this board would make excellent case studies.

It sure is hard to understand the importance of intelligence when you have no frame of reference.

And what of the people making fun of Young's size that are overweight and would never last in a game of football?

I really don't get what people have against this man. Yes, he is short for an NFL quarterback, but damn if he doesn't make up for it in almost every other area. Personally, I'm looking forward to a new era of Carolina Panther football and I hope everyone else is on board to come along for the ride.

This was the real smokescreen masterfully executed by TD

Imagine if the Texans pass on a QB and the Falcons trade up to 3 to get Stroud. Sounds like an unlikely scenario but the rivalry between us would reach epic proportions.

You do realize someone could mistake you for talking about Stroud here too right?

Right and we do have to consider the team around him since they didn't exactly do him any favors last year. There are just so many factors to consider when evaluating a player's performance that its hard to single just one aspect out.

Yep, you do raise a good point in that the inverse is true as well ... people boosting the test to be important because their favorite prospect scored high on it. It is interesting and make you wonder what unfounded things we all value or devalue that could be influenced by other factors.

Not trying to be controversial, but I do find it interesting the correlation between people who are strict Stroud supporters and who say the S2 Test is meaningless. If Stroud scored high would these people be believers in the test? Sidenote: I do think you'd see the same phenomenon if Bryce scored low.

I don't know if I go so far as label him a fraud, but I do feel something disingenuous about him when he gives interviews. Maybe it's how he mentions Jesus/God after every question, almost like he's hamming it up for the camera ... I don't know. Just something feels off and not as natural as when Bryce is giving interviews. Bryce looks to be a Christian too, but at least he doesn't air it out every time he speaks. Though, it could just be something as simple as he hasn't been coached on good public relations. (case in point when he mentioned both Michael Vick and Deshaun Watson) I love CJ as a prospect so I'm not trying to bash him but I'm glad I'm not the only one who has felt this way. I was on the fence with these prospects, but I think this combined with Bryce's intelligence, preparedness, and professionalism has pushed him over the edge for me as my #1 despite the size difference. As for Lombardi ... pretty shitty to knowingly throw this out there so close to the draft. It's almost like someone has paid him for this hit piece or fishing for views for his little known network with sensational headlines. Anyway, can't wait for the start of the season, I'm pumped!

This thread really just serves as confirmation bias to the quarterback that you were already leaning towards. The reality is, if the quarterback that the Panther's choose busts, and the other goes on to have a pro career, it's going to suck regardless. Where I sit, I do have a preference, simply based on things I've read or watched, but I'm not going to pretend like I have a better understanding of these guys over people who are paid to do this, have a far deeper understanding of the game, and have countless more data to compare against. Whoever the Panthers pick, will have my full support and trust. Keep pounding