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They're still under the delusion that Nagy isn't their biggest problem at QB. I figured Foles also looking like trash would wake them up, but evidently not.

If not for when they benched him for Foles (who looked way worse than Trubisky under Nagy), his stats work out to around 3600 yards and 28 TDs. That would be middle of the pack in yardage and #11 in TDs last year. I think we have the better weapons and the far better offensive system. Nagy looks like a hack IMHO. They had the #11 D in yardage and #14 D in scoring. Their D was decent. Above average. But definitely not a dominant D.

If we can't trade for Watson and it doesn't work out for us with a QB at #8 or a trade up for a QB, it's not very difficult at all to envision a scenario where Trubisky is our best option. Is that what I want? No, but I'd rather give Trubisky a shot than roll with Teddy for another year.

The bonus money is a sunk cost. It's getting paid no matter what. The salary is the "good" money after the bonus "bad".

C'mon now. Think about it. You can do it.

No reason to throw good money after bad.

Oh for sure, being able to go up against Peppers everyday definitely helps. And yeah, any OL we would even consider has to play LT. No team sorry enough to land a top 10 pick can afford to spend it on an OG.

He was actually drafted the year after Peppers, one of the freakiest DEs ever.

Smith won the Heisman for a reason. Most thought a WR would never even be considered again until Smith did what he did. He had 12 catches for 215 yards and 3 TDs against OSU at halftime and he was WIDE open on most of them.

I think confirming sub-4.7 would. No one expected him to run like Lamar Jackson or even Cam speeds, but sub-4.7 at his size would still be a good time and confirm that he can be a threat with his legs at the NFL level.

Did they play at the D1-AA level?

So run then.

Running is a big part of his game and there are serious questions about his level of competition. If he could run fast it would definitely help him. My point is that I don't think he can. You think Lamar Jackson lasts until #32 if he had gone out there and ran sub-4.4 like he's probably capable? Now I get why he chose not to run. Some teams were talking possible position change with him and he was adamant about staying at QB. But no one is talking position change with Lance.

I think that bridge is burned.

I get that. I'm all for being very aggressive, but only for a guy we REALLY like. I don't want to see us get aggressive to go after the 3rd or 4th option on our list.

I honestly think his complete aversion to risk is a bigger issue than his arm strength. His arm is definitely subpar for an NFL QB, but it wasn't AS bad as I expected it to be.

Another reason why we aren't tanking. We're taking a shot on somebody. Anybody. I don't necessarily agree with that approach because I think that thought played a big role in us ending up with Teddy. We came to the conclusion that Cam's shoulder was shot and made the call to move on. There was a guy who had worked with Brady in the past and ran a very similar offense, what could go wrong? Well, evidently a lot.

Honestly, I would too but I absolutely do not think we're going to do that. We had the perfect opportunity for a "tank" season last year and we passed on it.

Minshew and Trubisky are my last resort guys. I'd rather try one of them out than roll with Teddy again, but really hoping we can land a better prospect.

There are a lot of suspiciously fast times coming out of these things. I suspected there would be with no Combine to level the field. As far as speed goes, S&C programs can certainly help, but for the most part it's up to mom and dad. There's a reason for the old adage "you can't coach speed".

What was his arm length? 6'4" is less than ideal at LT, but those other measurables are excellent. For the record, Jordan Gross measured in at 6'4" 305. His arms were 33" which is considerably less than ideal for a LT. Everyone would be screaming "he's a guard!" if he measured in today.

Are you sure you want to make that argument? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/wide-receivers/wide-receivers https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/wide-receivers/runningbacks

The Pats' draft history has gotten worse since it's been all Belichick.

In his defense he's never drafted a QB in the 1st round, but honestly Belichick's draft record isn't a particularly good one. And honestly, as of right now, the "was it Belichick or was it Brady?" question is leaning really hard toward Brady.

Yep, Belichick is looking at guys who will likely be available at #15. We should also look at Belichick's QB drafting history. It isn't exactly all roses.