LinvilleGorge

I'm absolutely amazed at how many people actually think this was a great move. Like did y'all just become Panthers fans yesterday? When has re-signing a RB to a big money contract ever worked out for this franchise? DeAngelo Williams? Jonathan Stewart? Christian McCaffrey? All of those re-signings were mistakes. Giving a RB big money has a terrible track record of ROI, period. It's a draft 'em and let 'em walk position. A big part of the Panthers' roster management issues over the years and a big part of why we have historically been inconsistent before finding our consistency as perennial cellar dwellers under Tepper is because we have always fundamentally struggled to understand positional value. We have always tied up far too many premium resources be it cap space or draft picks in non-premium positions. We currently have a ton of money tied up in RBs and interior OL. This is the type of stuff that I thought Tepper's "analytics" and hedge fund experience would help fix yet the doom cycle just keeps repeating.

Every highly drafted QB is high risk, high reward. No way around it. There's no such thing as a sure thing in the draft and that's especially true at the QB position. It's just that when you trade a king's ransom for the pick it becomes absurdly high risk with the same potential reward. You've vastly skewed the downside of the equation.

A guy suddenly having a career year in contract year only to revert back to his norm after getting paid is a tale as old as professional sports. Don't be surprised if it happens again.

We are the dumbest fuging team in the league. We just traded up to draft a RB in the 2nd round and now we're paying a guy we should be letting walk. Just amazing ineptitude. It is no accident that we have become perennial cellar dwellers. We've worked hard to earn it.

Another matchup of two of the worst teams in the NFL. This might be the worst thing to happen to Germany since the firebombing of Dresden.

I almost hope they do just so we can watch them get completely skull drug TCU style.

Great trade for us. Mingo is hot garbage.

30 seconds is a long time with three timeouts in your pocket.

Haven't read through the thread but last year with Canales as OC, the Bucs were 23rd in yardage and 20th in points. This year without him they're 5th and 3rd respectively. With all of our focus on adding offensive pieces we're still near the bottom of the league in both categories. Not looking good but you have to give him more time. You can't just keep firing coaches.

When you know your D sucks it can cause you to take chances you probably shouldn't take. You feel like you gotta put up 7 every possession.

This is an underrated factor but the NIL money in college should help root out some of it before draft day

At least AR can run. I do think he would've really struggled against that Vikings D though. They probably disguise coverages and blitzes as good or better than anyone else in the league. Flores may have flopped as a HC but he's a helluva DC.

He just had no ability at all to throw on the move. If you can get him off of his spot the play is basically over for the Colts.

It does. But still, when you can overcome that combination of negative plays and still win comfortably in the NFL that's pretty damn impressive.

The Vikings are good. I know the Colts are mediocre and trending the wrong direction but still when your QB has three turnovers, you have a fumble returned for a TD against you, and your kicker misses two FGs your odds of winning in the NFL have to be damn near zero and they still won comfortably.

Flacco has missed a lot of throws tonight.

Oh wee mayne. Another bad INT from Darnold. Turnover #3.

Justin Jefferson might be the best non-QB offensive player in the league.

Oof. And now Darnold with the strip sack that goes for a TD. That dude just ragdolled his ass. Damn

Oof. Classic Darnold INT

It just doesn't matter. His trade value is crap. Just play him.

You can't pay JAGs like franchise QBs. You can build a roster around a JAG on a rookie contract but if that same guy has a franchise QB cap hit you're cooked.

We aren't getting much for him no matter what.

They're basically stuck trying to figure it out with Lawrence. I didn't buy all the generational talk about Lawrence but I thought he was probably gonna be a borderline top 10 type of NFL QB. The dude is just trash though.

That Trevor Lawrence contract was probably an even more crippling blunder than the trade we made trading for Bryce. Yikes.