LinvilleGorge

You were able to play free. That is FAR from the norm.

Coaching and QB play are my two biggest concerns by far. Unfortunately, the one thing football related that Tepper has been right about is that you need three things to be consistently competitive in the NFL - a QB, a coach, and a GM. The first is a long shot hope for us in the way of a 3rd round rookie. The second is virtually a confirmed bust. The third is an incomplete grade. So yeah... it's still a significant uphill road ahead of us.

Yeah, it pretty much does.

It's Darnold. Hence why we're still sniffing around Baker Mayfield after drafting a QB in the 3rd. Darnold ain't it.

Anyone buying hope on Darnold looking good throwing in OTAs is setting themw loves up for significant disappointment. Throwing the football isn't Darnold's issue. He's a very talented thrower of the football. His problems arise when there's a well prepared defense with a good game plan opposing him. That's when the wheels absolutely fall off and it has nothing to do with his ability to throw a football.

The target audience is rapidly dying off. Does anyone under 80 listen to sports radio?

Golf is expensive. Really expensive. Poor folks need not apply.

You have to have ELITE eye/hand coordination and in today's game good athleticism is becoming more and more important with everyone knocking the ball a mile. I bet there's not many poor folks on college golf teams and hardly any on the PGA.

If they get a look at Corral in mini-camp and it leaves them thinking... "ain't no way this kid is gonna be ready anytime soon" then yeah, I could see it. The thing is that if we pick up the phone to call the Browns after mini-camp, them they know this too. Then again, negotiating from a weak position has kinda been the Panthers' MO for years now.

Yep. The key difference being that Tiger and the Williams sisters had prodigal talent. You gotta win the genetic lottery first. Without winning the genetic lottery all the hard work is for naught. The prodigal talent is going to blow by your years of hard work in a matter of weeks. The kid's idiot dad never really played sports growing up and was (and is) kind a quiet loner. Nothing wrong with that, but it clearly wasn't by choice. He really wanted to be the cool jock so he's overcompensating (he has both a bro'd out diesel truck and a lifted Jeep that never leaves pavement) so he's going to try to make sure his son is that. When idiot dad hears sports announcers talk about so and so being an "average athlete" he's too dumb to realize they mean "average athlete" for a professional athlete which still means "freak genetic mutant" among the population at large.

Even golf leans heavily toward natural talent. The field is just significantly narrowed because you pretty much have to be rich to play enough golf as a youngster to have a chance.

You would think. I grew up with some guys who played D1 ball and a couple who had lengthy pro careers abroad and none of them ever sniffed pro sports in America and they were all mutants. I don't think this kid's dad ever really played sports himself and encountered people who were simply way more physically talented. Just in a different athletic universe. Those are the guys who go on to play D1 sports and maybe have a chance at the pros.

Oh, we know what we have in Sam. We have

Cleveland ain't taking on Sam Darnold. I have no idea who their third option is either but I'd take whoever it is over Sam Darnold and his salary. *Just looked it up, it's Jacoby Brissett. Yes, without a doubt I'm taking Brissett over Darnold.

Hell, we kinda have to because of all the money Darnold is gonna eat up.

Call it "the Tepper Effect". Three straight five win seasons kills the optimism of all but the most delusionally optimistic

I think Matt Rhule is what killed Matt Rhule's career. He's just not cut out for the NFL. Hell, I'm not convinced he's cut out for sustained success at the college level.

I'm willing to give McAdoo a shot. We'll see what he can do. My expectations? We're all talking draft again by Halloween. So, basically status quo Tepper Panthers.

Same.

It's been basically the same game with a yearly roster update for over a decade and offline franchise mode keeps getting worse because they want everyone playing online to encourage spending more $$$.

It's just sad to watch. They're setting this kid up for failure and disappointment by putting this bullshit of professional baseball in his head while putting everything else on the back burner all because dad is trying to chase his own pipe dream through his son and mom won't stand up to dad's delusion. dad just doesn't understand that you have to win the genetic lottery first. Without winning that, you have no chance at pro sports. Sorry, it's just a no go no matter how hard you work.

You're not far from getting banned. The shtick is getting beyond old. It basically just comes down to which one of the mods gets tired enough of it to pull the trigger but keep it up and it's coming and none of us are going to be willing to save you when it happens. Fair warning.

We need a coach and a QB. Unfortunately, those are the two must have pieces. You can have a perennially great team that has weaknesses practically anywhere else but you cannot be weak at QB or coach if you want to consistently compete.