LinvilleGorge

Explain why in Luke's last season the hands down best two MLBs in the game (Luke and Wagner) played on two of the worst defenses in the league.

Hindsight being 20/20 and all that, hell no you don't draft Luke at #9. You draft Fletcher Cox then take Bobby Wagner in the 2nd.

Agreed. Pro day 40s almost always seem to be miraculously faster than Combine times. Remember when Funchess ran 4.7 at the Combine then supposedly sub 4.5 at his pro day? Sure...

Beware the Dion Jordans. When there's a massive gap between the physical tools and the production that's as big of a red flag there is.

Cool. Helluva prospect. Do. Not. Want. You just can't spend a top 10 pick on am off the ball LB with massive needs at far more premium positions in QB, LT, and CB.

I definitely expect us to still be looking at OTs hard starting in the 2nd round.

Yeah, based on what we talked about wanting in a QB, Jones just doesn't fit the mold

I have no idea who, but I don't think it will be Teddy.

All I can say is that I've never seen any body armor ads on this site and my wife used to sell the stuff.

You don't like the fact that people voice opinions on this forum. You don't like the ads on the forum. Everything you post is complaining about something. You're clearly trying to insinuate that you think the entire place is poorly ran. You know you could just leave, right?

Damn, man. You must be completely oblivious to how badly you just told on yourself.

Interesting. Gotta think they put #2 on the auction block if they're not taking a QB.

I like that we addressed the OL early on in FA. I'm concerned that we went after so many guys with clear medical red flags. We'll see...

All I'm saying is that it seems very clear that we're moving on from Teddy this off-season. If we're not, then yeah we should really stop throwing shade at him publicly.

I don't doubt it a bit. If Jared Goff can go #1 overall, Mac Jones can absolutely go in the 1st. Just in terms of pure physical tools, I don't think there's much of a gap if any between them.

I agree with you they're good prospects. You always mischaracterize others' disagreements and play this victim crap while downplaying the absurdity of your original claim by acting like you were simply indicating that you think a guy is going to be good. My only disagreement is that their floor is obviously not that of a legit NFL MVP candidate.

I just gotta laugh, man.

Just a general observation my man. Every time you encounter the slightest pushback on one of your opinions this is how it plays out.

Adam Gase really might just be THAT bad.

LOL! Says the guy who constantly acts like the slightest disagreement with any opinion he has no matter how absurd is an all out assault him as a person. Calm down indeed.

You can think a guy is going to be good without making the absurd claim that his floor is great. Forget Allen, if we thought their floor was Baker, I don't think we would've been (and hell, maybe still are) hell-bent on trading for Watson. We would've been hell-bent on trading up in the draft from the get go.

Reality bias. They were young QBs in the process of developing. They are what they are. And I think you may be misremembering on Baker, the guy practically swept the NFL rookie awards. But when you toss out a name as a prospect's floor, most people are going to interpret that as the current perception of that player. If Josh Allen is these guys' floor, it's hard to imagine a trade that wouldn't be worth it for us. You're basically saying that legit MVP candidate is their floor and honestly that's absurd.

Honestly, I don't and it has everything to do with the money. He's paid millions. He didn't perform. We haven't sugar coated that. The organization didn't really start airing their disappointment until after Teddy threw the staff under the bus for "not getting the play call in on time" when he missed a wide open DJ in the endzone. There seemed to be a clear shift toward "fug this guy" in regards to Teddy from the organization after that and honestly it's tough to blame them.

Cam was a GREAT deep ball thrower in his prime though. Yeah, he always had a pass or two every game that wildly got away from him, but I think those couple of wild pitches make people overstate his accuracy "issues". When he missed, he MISSED but the overall number of misses gets exaggerated due to the obviousness of the misses IMO.

It's a wrap for Teddy when you have a guy who works for the organization pretty much openly calling you a disappointment on the field.