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Everything posted by LinvilleGorge
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Stroud had by far the worst game of his career and Bryce had his beat and we barely won a defensive struggle fest.
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I keep thinking of the Huddle after that Houston win. A lot of posters who had been complaining about the board being hostile and negative and wanting the mods to crackdown to make the place more civil all of a sudden got real loud and proud talking a whole lot of poo... just like I said they would if they ever got the chance. They looked like they felt so goddamn vindicated.
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I hope David Tepper is aware of a basic truth
LinvilleGorge replied to CRA's topic in Carolina Panthers
He's a deterrent if Tepper says he's the QB and the candidate watches the film and says, yeah... that dude ain't it -
15 year season ticket holder... I won't be renewing
LinvilleGorge replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Tepper has turned us into the new Browns. Were the worst team in the league since he bought the team and I see no signs of that doing anything other than finding new bottoms. -
I agree the situation is terrible and I'm not overly concerned about young QB mistakes. My concern is I'm just seeing very few flashes of the type of talent you want to be landing with a very high 1st round pick.
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That's what I keep coming back to. Bryce was drafted because of how mentally advanced he was supposed to be. We already knew his physical tools weren't great. What we've seen so far is that his physical tools are every bit as limited as many of us feared while his mental skills aren't as advanced as we hoped. I just don't see the physical upside for all the mental development in the world to yield a franchise QB
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No. You're reading way too much into this. I'm simply pointing out this is how you make the throw. The error was far more on Bryce than it was on Mingo.
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Allen's rookie season is irrelevant. I'm talking only about these two specific plays. The DB was also on Mingo's heels in trailing position same is here. Both DBs jumped the route to go for the INT. Both receivers drifted slightly downfield. One QB anticipated this and lifted the ball over the DB leading his receiver downfield and the other threw a pick six. Bryce's throw in the Bills play would've also been a pick six.
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I think two. Most are downfield
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Josh Allen just made this exact same pass but he was smart enough to loft it over the DB and use his aggression against him. Oh... and the receiver started drifting up the field. PXL_20231119_233027620.mp4
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He's on pace. Jameis holds the single season record with 7. Bruce has 4 through 10 games.
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You're missing the point. You're not explaining anything other than that you're desperate to find someone to blame other than Bryce. You've already admitted it wasn't a good read. You've already admitted it wasn't a great throw. You've already admitted that the throw lacked the necessary velocity. Yet you still want to put all the blame on a receiver drifting one yard down the field while a DB stared at Bryce staring at Mingo and was able to undercut the route. The pick six was primarily on Bryce. But keep coping. The play having a negative outcome was 100% on Bryce.
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With a better route the best case is a broken up pass. Decent chance it still gets picked. The DB is just reading Bryce's eyes and playing the ball.
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Wouldn't surprise me. Just cut me my check and I'll head on into retirement.
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The closer it gets to the sidelines the smaller the window gets.
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Ron's team doing Ron team stuff. Two of those TDs were total busted coverage that half of the Huddle could've thrown. Hell, maybe even Bryce Young... if he saw it and didn't try to force a ball elsewhere and throw a pick six instead.
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Yes, Mingo sucks. But Bryce threw a ball that got picked because he threw a dead duck.
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You know what would've kept it from getting picked? A throw delivered with NFL velocity. If a trailing defender can undercut a route with an on target ball, the ball got there too slow. Mingo drifting one yard up the field did not get the ball picked. If he doesn't drift the best case scenario is that the pass is broken up instead of picked.
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I went back to edit to actually give you a serious response and not just mock you. But seriously... The title is hilarious. The pick is 100% someone else fault while you're already admitting it was a bad read and the ball should've been thrown to someone else because the D blew a coverage. But yeah, it's 100% someone else's fault. Then the throw was such a dead duck that a trailing defender was still able to undercut the route and jump it to get the INT, but yet it was still 100% someone else's fault. Maximum cope has been achieved. I honestly should've just left post as the cutting snark the thread deserves.
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Go back and read the edit. You're desperately reaching to cover for you guy, man.
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Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? But seriously, it's a YAC route. It's not a comeback. Did Mingo drift a little? Yeah. Would it matter if Bryce didn't throw at the velocity of a child? No. It got picked because Bryce can't generate velocity, not because the receiver drifted one yard down the field. If Mingo doesn't drift that yard at best it's a broken up pass. It might have still gotten picked. And Tremble is still wide open because of a completely busted coverage.
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It's all just moot if you simply throw to the completely uncovered guy because the Cowboys busted a coverage.