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And that play was was nice, but he only shed individuals, when two guys were there he went down, Cam dragged groups. He pushed piles at the goalline. Allen is a great runner, he’s not a bulldozer when the situation calls for it like Cam. I know I’m nitpicking, and I’ve always agreed that Allen is the closest thing we’ve seen or probably will see. But the goalline dives and bulldozing was really what set him apart. He was stronger than Allen, stronger than any QB when it came to goalline situations or 4th downs in addition to being fast and elusive.

Cam was used differently. Allen is different. Not even saying he’s worse or anything, I’m a big fan of Allen. He’s similar to Cam, I’ve been saying his best comp is Cam since I was high on him in his draft. But he’s not “another Cam”. He’s a slightly better passer and a different kind of runner. I didn’t say anything about better. My point is that he’s just not Cam. The combination of really good passer, long speed, and bulldozer is not a combo we’ll likely see again at QB

Heh nice. Didn’t click since YouTube won’t let us embed it

Show me something like this before even thinking about saying he is as physical as Cam was https://youtu.be/B0gDD0YYsb8

That’s one play and he got stuffed immediately on contact…he just reached out. If anything that proves my point lol

I said he’s the closest but no, I’ve never seen him do what Cam did almost every game on the goal line. I don’t mean “running between the 20s and runs into a LB”. I mean goalline battering ram.

It’s not the talent per se, it’s the combination of talent, physicality, athleticism and heart. That was rare. Highly unlikely there will be another Cam. There might be someone who has some of his traits, but not all of them. For example you could say Hurts has some of Cam’s talent and all of his athleticism, but he doesn’t have his physicality as the team’s goal line battering ram. Josh Allen might be the closest but he’s still lacking Cam’s physicality and possibly that intangible … if you don’t wanna call it heart, call it killer instinct or something.

This OP speaks only for himself.

I saw this on instagram with a caption “Lamar to Carolina?” Seriously how desperate do you have to be to try to make that connection?! There is nothing whatsoever implied by Lamar liking a friend’s picture of the two of them. Jesus hernando christo.

Not if we have to trade for him.

Sign one and draft one in the second.

Interesting.

Good data. I wouldn’t have guessed he was statistically better than Stafford, especially considering he’s had worse weapons by a fair margin over the course of those 9 years. Coaching I’d say is about equally bad.

Eh, we’ll see. Icky was a slam dunk, it was a great draft for him alone. Other than Corral the others still have a good shot at developing into good players. I only say not Corral because we’re obviously going after someone else this year and he won’t get much opportunity.

Saw this earlier. Crazy. Never liked the dude

My top choice is trading up for Stroud. But if I’m picking between Richardson and Levis at 9, at this point I’m probably picking Richardson. Levis hasn’t shown me anything overly impressive in the many videos I’ve watched of him. Richardson at least has actual strengths you can build around beyond size and arm strength. And they’re both equally inaccurate, so if I’m working around that anyway I’d rather have Richardson.

Cool idea, he spent too much time talking about himself though. Only thing he said about Horn was “nice play” on the second int in that short highlight video

I chose A, but Barno could take that other starting OLB spot from Haynes. We’re pretty close to good with what we have, could use a replacement for YGM at DE and probably a ILB or two, but otherwise we’re pretty good.

You also don’t hire four world class chefs and give them dog food to cook with. (not that I necessarily believe Levis is dog food, but compared to Stroud and Young he is)

I think we’re going to need to lock up Burns before the season starts…going to be easier after a 12.5 sack season than a 17+ sack season

Yea, just gotta pay attention to when he does have to deal with pressure. His OL wasn’t elite, neither was his RB. His receiver was but he wasn’t always open, he was a guy that could catch everything not get open every time. Watch the games (not the highlight reels), Stroud was putting the ball in the perfect place almost every time whether the receiver was open or not. I think he’s a lot more polished than Young but what Young has that Stroud doesn’t is the ability to scramble around like Russell Wilson to extend plays.

Yea I believe they would because I’m not just going off stats, I’m watching every throw, every decision, every play I can find. Their stats and wins might not be as impressive at a worse school but what you see them do on tape and videos would be. The school and talent around then only affects the assessment if all you’re doing is looking at stats and wins. No one on his team is helping Stroud throw perfect passes with pinpoint accuracy. It helps the stat sheet when he has great receivers who catch those passes, but if you watch the plays you can see them do things that the others can’t.

If they’re smart they would. But they’re not, so who knows.

I mean, he was a legit leading candidate for MVP that year and if the Eagles had not traded up and got him they wouldn’t have won their first ever Super Bowl. So I think they’d say it was worth it.

If Chicago stays at 1, then I’d be ok just moving up to 3 even though I really prefer Stroud to Young. That might save us a 1st, or at least a 2nd to potentially get Young instead of Stroud. But if it’s looking like Chicago will trade to another team taking a QB, that team needs to be us. The gap between Stroud/Young and Richardson/Levis is huge imo